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Chuck Newman (Chuck_newman)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 12:41 pm:   

We will be using six of the original windows in our MCI 102 for several reasons. I've found a place that makes a roll up/down screen with surface mount frame that will fit the windows perfectly and will not interfere with the locking bar.

But I'm still mulling over the front door. I did a search back to 2001 on screen doors. Lots of info about folks wanting to do the same thing, but no specific solutions for my door style with pneumatic arm.

At a Caverns rally, I talked to a busser from Arizona who had the slotted door vertical plastic strips on his MC 9 front door to keep bugs out. We thought it was OK, but noticed in searching some folks thought this was low rent looking.

Remembering back to my RVing days (trying to remember), I recall most of the time it was hot enough or cold enough the keep the door closed. But as full timers, we expect to be in weather (most of the time) that invites on open door, especially when sitting outside.

I know at a rally, and elsewhere, in good weather an open door is nice to have, but most areas we've been at did not have a lot of bugs.

I'd like comments on whether a screen door is really necessary in various parts of the country, and what you used, if anything.

Thanks, Chuck
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 3:02 pm:   

IF the door will be open a screen is necessary!!

I have seen cloth screens that drop down and have magnests built into the sides , doesn't look 3rd world and works , but is a pain to live with.

FF
K.J. Franklin (Slow_rider)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 9:12 pm:   

Chuck, any chance you can pass along the name and contact info for the folks who will make the screens for the windows?

Thanks,

Frank
Keith Wood (Ft6)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:06 pm:   

My 96A3 has the same door shape. I'm thinking about one of those retractable screen doors that roll up (like the sunshades do), cut to the appropriate shape to fit the front (the roll-up side would be toward the rear), with a magnetic strip to hold it against a steel strip which would keep it closed.

I'm also looking forward to finding out who's doing your window screens.

I'm going to have screens for the top hatches, hinged on one end for easy flip-down to work the handles.
Moe Hollow (Moehollow)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:34 pm:   

It would seem easy to make a curtain of screen material. Is that "low rent"? How much was the rent at the rally anyway? Do you have a link to the screen windows?
Chuck Newman (Chuck_newman)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 1:22 am:   

K.J., Keith, and Moe,

After a number of Google searches I found a few companies that make roll up screens to fit inside a typical house window frame. Unless you build a frame for your windows, that direction won't work.

I found ScreenEx was one of only two I could find that offered an inside/recessed mount, as well as an outside/surface mount. The latter is perfect for my needs as the original MCI 102 windows have a frame the same width as the screen's vertical tracks.

So the screen cassette at the top covers the top of the window frame, the vertical tracks cover the sides of the frame, and the screen pull bar rests on top of the window latch bar. When the window is opened, the pull bar comes down to the level what was the base of the OEM latch bar. A fully screened window that can be raised to enter/remove large items from the coach. Like our sofa.

Rather than a valence of some type, Elva wants curtains. These will hang from the cabinet bottom mounted just above the windows, and will cover the screen kits, with drapes open or closed.

ScreenEx will cut to your specifications, and at $177. each they are not cheap, but about a third the cost of purchasing six Peninsula Glass replacements. Beside the savings, their are other reasons we want to keep six of the OEM windows. See

http://screenex.com/scrnx4content.html

Keith, my non-mechanical half brain cannot envision your front door screen design. Can you post a simple drawing of what you're describing. Also for your hatches, a simple and not costly screen and frame from a local home improvement store would do the trick with a couple hinges added.

Moe the low rent phrase regarding the PVC door curtain strips came from a post I read during the long searching of the archives of front door screens today. They used a slightly different term, but just as derogatory. Actually, we thought it was a unique idea, and looked OK on the bus we saw, but still would require some modifications to deal with the door's angled slope, and the actuator mechanism and cover.

I like the anti-bug yellow door curtain offered by Strip-Curtains.com. It will complement our fluorescent yellow patio light. Check out

http://www.envirobarrier.com/

and

http://www.aleco.com/?gclid=CMe20KDf45ICFR26YAodSWQiwg

Bugs are OK as long as they stay out of the house. We will probably use the envirobarrier, but I wanted to give the door screen one last shot.
Chuck Newman (Chuck_newman)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 1:30 am:   

If the gentleman from Arizona with the MCI I'm referring to is reading this, please chime in. It's been a few years and I have some "door slope" questions. If you are not a member of BNO, please send me an email. And your certainly welcome to join. Thanks.
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 6:34 am:   

"After a number of Google searches I found a few companies that make roll up screens to fit inside a typical house window frame. Unless you build a frame for your windows, that direction won't work. "

WE found the old frames from discarded windows , sans the glass can be installed in the outside track, and the inner will still slide open.A piece of screen door rubber holds the screening in the old glass channel.

Almost free,

Second method it to get an entire window frame , slice it the long way around and grind it flat where the cut was made.

Then PL glue an aluminum screen or a black screen (your way) to the frame and install it with 4 screws.

It is easier to handle if the trim ring is solid so an inch of welding is needed on some brands.

Almost free,

FF

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