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Jim H (67.210.245.23)

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Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 7:16 pm:   

Hi:
Was just leaving on an extended trip in my eagle when I saw a e aby sale on a slightly brunt 98 rennisance 45' seated coach. To make a long story short I biought it and got it home 2 days before leaving. Since I can't work on it till spring I'm putting in lots of thinking time and have some questions.
Should I leave the over the road AC in or remove it - and why
Install slide outs or not - and why
Is 45' going to be a hassel? where?
Any one know of one of these wrecked in the front end?? All leads gratefully accepted.
Thanks
Jim
Doug (12.90.24.121)

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Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 10:40 pm:   

leave the coach AC.......learn from the aviation industry.....redundency is good.

as for slide outs...I would say no........more stuff to break.....and expensive to fix if it breaks while out.
45" is a hassel as some states do not allow them...CA for instance.

also your going to find it hard to find campgrounds that will accept you.
FAST FRED (63.215.231.45)

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Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 4:49 am:   

Most states are forced to allow them in the Interstate , after that your on your own.

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Geoff (64.1.0.88)

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Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 8:51 am:   

California has changed its laws and now allows 45' RV/bus conversions, but not on all highways. They also require at minimum a non-commercial Class B license to operate a 45'er.
RJ Long (Rjlong) (24.127.74.29)

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Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 10:11 pm:   

Geoff's right, except that the requirement for a non-commercial CDL only applies to those of us domiciled here in CA. . .

(The legislation that OK'd 45-footer RVs also requires the CHP to monitor accidents involving these vehicles, and report to the legislature in five years for review and possible revision. Translated: If you've got a 45-foot coach, DON'T have an accident in CA!!!!)

RJ
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Fresno CA
Jim-Bob (199.181.167.68)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 9:23 am:   

Isn't "Non Commercial CDL" an oxymoron? And do you really have those in CA? They don't have such a thing in FL as far as I can tell, just regular CDLs. Thought the CDL was a Federal thing administered by the states.
(BTW, I just got my class B CDL with passenger endorsement last week. Now those cranky cops can't hassle me about it. Glad I took the class. Lots of good info there.)
RJ Long (Rjlong) (24.127.74.29)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:53 am:   

Of course it's an oxymoron. It's CA!!

(You know that: When God (or whoever you believe in) shook up the USA, all the fruits & nuts landed in this wonderful state!)

Humor aside, CA does offer a non-commercial CDL for both A and B classes.

An example of the non-com "A" is the crew-cab pick-up pulling a horse trailer (like a family taking their horses to a show, not a commercial breeder - they would need the CDL), or the farmer pulling a couple of cotton trailers from the fields to his storage area.

The 45-foot RVs licensed in CA require the non-com "B" of the owner. Of course, if you have a regular CDL, no problem. . .

The CDL classes are informative, not a bad idea for anybody who drives a Class A rig.

Bet you now know how to do an air brake check properly, eh, Jim?

RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA
(NOT a fruit, but a true busnut!)
Geoff (64.1.0.144)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 1:23 pm:   

If you look back you will notice I posted "non-commercial Class B", this is the correct term and is not an oxy-moron. Having a "CDL" is not the same thing as having a "Class A" or a "Class B" license. I think they even have commercial Class C licenses with hazard material endorsements, but I can't find my DMV books to confirm this.

Also, RJ corrected me on needing a special license to operate a 45' RV/conversion in CA if you were from out of state-- legally I agree with him, but unfortunately the CHP/Cal gov't seems to take the opinion that out of state drivers must also comply with the California requirements. Or at least they did when the arguments for allowing 45'ers was made.

--Geoff
'82 RTS CA
Buswarrior (Buswarrior) (64.229.212.43)

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Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 10:45 pm:   

Wow, Jim, that's quite a project bus!

Keep us informed as to how you get on with the multiplex wiring.

MCI makes conversion shells of that type, suitable for slide outs, so they'll be of some assistance in what you can and can't get away with in the chassis that you have bought.

I'm a fan of keeping the coach HVAC in some capacity in a conversion. Two reasons: as noted by others, redundancy, and the other is the large capacity to quickly get the interior temp to your liking if the coach is parked out in the parking lot all day at some attraction.

Good luck with your planning!

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess) (65.130.10.80)

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Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 8:35 pm:   

I saw factory demo Rennisance at Bruce Coach Conversions in British Columbia. It had a different Air Conditioning system than the earlier MCIs so I think you will need to look at what you have and advise us what we should do when we can afford one. The system looked like a home Trane central AC unit in one bay. I don't know how it was powered.

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