| Author | Message | ||
| Bill Laird (Billaird99)
Registered Member Username: Billaird99 Post Number: 25 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 24.163.34.244 Rating: N/A |
I just found the source of a major water leak in my GMC-4903 bus. Seems that the when the bus was converted sometime ago they used a sheet of aluminum that was installed to cover over a window and now it has separated from the bus. In looking at the way they installed it, I believe it should have been placed under another panel in a way that water cascading down the sides would flow over the panel. Can anyone who has a PD-4903 be able to confirm that the aluminum panels on the sides tuck under the steel section where the drip railing attaches prior to going back to aluminum roof panels? The way it was installed was not correct and now I have to try to correct it the way it is supposed to be. Are there any sources to pick up aluminum panels that can be made to spec or do I just have to get a large enough piece and then cut it down to the size I require? I checked the parts diagram that IBP sent me but they only have a supply of aluminum panels that are for OEM applications. Any help on obtaining this material would be greatly appreciated. I can't even address the problem with my floor until I can make sure it's 100% water tight. Thanks in advance Bill | ||
| Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
Registered Member Username: Oonrahnjay Post Number: 436 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 69.143.33.151  Rating: N/A |
Bill, I have found "trailer siding" aluminum panels at tractor-trailer supply houses. It's about .040 (40 mils) by 4 feet by 110 inches. There's a lot of aluminum there! Last ones I bought, I paid about $65 for. My bus is very different from yours in many details but all the panels on my bus overlap in "shingle" fashion -- upper ones have edges which lie over the lower ones and overlap. Just as you describe, water tends to drip over and down and never gets "scooped" into a seam. | ||
| FloridaCliff (Floridacracker)
Registered Member Username: Floridacracker Post Number: 405 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.27.226.231 Rating: N/A |
Bill, I have a 4905 and resheeted both sides. The side metal goes underneath the roof material and then the gutter is riveted through all. I ended up moving my gutters to just over the windows and lowering them, as i had removed aLL Look up your local steel supplier. I had them sheer the sheets to my specs, didn't cost much and made it much easier to work with. Cliff | ||
| Roger Baughman (Roger)
Registered Member Username: Roger Post Number: 114 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.140.123.90  Rating: N/A |
Maybe someone can give Bill some tips on the installation so it doesn't wrinkle afterwards. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 842 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.216.70.120 Rating: N/A |
IBC in Fl has a made cover plate that matches the between window trim. Will blank one or two windows per side. LOOKS ! GREAT!! FF | ||
| Bill Laird (Billaird99)
Registered Member Username: Billaird99 Post Number: 26 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 173.132.107.225 Rating: N/A |
Fred, Is it IBP in Apopka Fl that has the cover-plate? I have a .pdf file that shows a PD-4905 and the OEM panels. I will have to give them a call or e-mail to find out. Is there a procedure that Roger described as installing it without it wrinkling? I sure as anything would hate to have that happen after getting it all buttoned back up. Thanks so far for the help everyone. Bill | ||
| Bill Laird (Billaird99)
Registered Member Username: Billaird99 Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 173.102.112.234 Rating: N/A |
OK, I received an e-mail from IBP and they can get me the cover plates. When I get them I can create another thread asking for advice on keeping them from wrinkling. Thanks for the responses. Bill | ||
| Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad Post Number: 1128 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 99.204.58.109  Rating: N/A |
Bill, To prevent wrinkling, I heat the panels to about 125-135 (slightly hotter than they will ever be from radiant heat), then rivet them in place while hot. When they cool that will be stretched tight and should never wrinkle. Jack | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 843 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.216.70.120 Rating: N/A |
All the panels I have seen from IBC were fluted similar to coach siding. I believe the flutes will prevent the wrinkling . Ask IBC , they ain't cheap so the tech support should be great.. FF | ||
| Douglas Wotring (Tekebird)
Registered Member Username: Tekebird Post Number: 399 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.59.75.212 Rating: N/A |
I have a bunch of new buffalo baggage door upper pannels ( fluted) if your interested in that look. OEm and cheaper than IBC. | ||
| FloridaCliff (Floridacracker)
Registered Member Username: Floridacracker Post Number: 407 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 67.8.98.138 Rating: N/A |
Doug, Whats the cost b4 shipping? $$.$$ | ||
| Steve Bishop (Cajunco9aster)
Registered Member Username: Cajunco9aster Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 66.82.162.20 Rating: N/A |
I reskined my MCI 9 with .060 aluminum 3'x10' heated to 160 degrees with those diesel heaters mounted on ladders with silkiflex and 1/4" rivets Starting at the back lower moving forward then at the rear top moving forward and tucking the top sheets 1 1/2" under the top then reinstalling the drip rails. Tip laying the old sheets on top of the new sheets and spray paint to mark the rivit holes on the new sheets so I would know where to drill. The siding is tite as a drum in 100 degrees | ||
| Steve Kolb (Skolbibp)
Registered Member Username: Skolbibp Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2009 Posted From: 70.46.31.2 Rating: N/A |
Don't hesitate to call for prices (1-800-468-5287 x232) on any of the panels. Although some of the post seem negative, we are looking at the prices on an item by item basis. We had some previous management that thought the parts were gold because of the age of the coach. They are no longer here due to this type of thinking. Thanks Steve | ||
| Jim Huddleston (Eaglespirit)
Registered Member Username: Eaglespirit Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 68.230.13.253 Rating: N/A |
If your in the south you shouldn't need to heat it. Just work in the sun, this time of year it will be over 120. I put mine on in Arizona summer sun shine didn't wrinkle. |