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Nellie Wilson (Vivianellie)
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 2:33 pm:   

Salutations to all of you,

Yep, Clint, I have been surfing a bit and seen my name pop up a few times - sometimes in vain :-) but mostly not. Thanking you all for your good thoughts and generous invites. And Marv, thanks for the birthday wishes - just what a gal needs, eh, another birthday!

Cut to the chase, Nellie!

Regarding the CDs: I've sent out a dozen or so CDs to those for whom I had an address - those I got from emails. But remember guys, I didn't handle most of the transactions. And some long time ago I suggested to e-mail me so I needn't bother Ian. God bless him - and all of you - for the ever appreciated help. Please, to those who I didn't get back to, just shoot me an e-mail and I will be honored to fulfill my promise.

One nice thing, I've been able to 'pay it forward' on a couple occasions and that felt pretty good - the way things are supposed to work, right?

But my sincere and heartfelt apologies to those I may have inadvertently upset. I hope to get an e-mail from you so I can clear the air and get back in your good graces.

I'm still stuck on turtle-net here, and not even that much of the time, so I'll be happy to get back to civilization and some high speed access. And, hopefully, some places to work.

First though, gotta get the bus rolling again. I've been making some progress - but mostly of the "When you're up to you're a** in alligators" kind.

See, the priority (going on about 3 months) has been to fix the %#* clutch. But, just as I started on that, the parking brake refused to release. After a couple days messing with this, finally got it released... for just long enough to get the bus into a really bad place. Then she locked up again. Why? Big air leak from the ONE place I hadn't gotten around to cleaning and degreasing - above the spare wheel. Yuck!

With some L.D. coaching from my buddy Ralph Peters, tracked the trouble to the QR valve. Pulled it out (later realizing I didn't have to), matched it up to one on a retired MC 9, and took that one off. But turned out I didn¡¦t really need the valve, just needed the diaphragm INSIDE the valve (further proof that ignorance is not always bliss). So, pulled the diaphragm, stuck it in my old valve, stuck it back on and lo and behold, the brake actually worked again.

A tip: Since these diaphragms aren't usually sold separately, you gotta buy the whole unit. But (big 'but' here) you can make your own out of an old inner tube. This Greyhound mechanic, guy that helped me, says he cuts up a bunch at a time to use as spares, puts a few in each bus - saves on road calls.

I don't know much but I'm close to expert on diaphragms (no cracks, Clint).

Okee-doke, now the bus moves, I can get on to that clutch problem. Wrong again. Start her up, back onto the ramps and Whoooosh! This time from the BACK end. Pull the wheels for the 4th time this year - the lugs are gonna go smooth at this rate - and joy of joys, another air frame has bit the dust. Tired and out of patience - and stamina and money (as usual) - I get some JB Weld; temporary fix but good enough to go.

Next day my conscience, sense of duty, whatever, kicks in, says do it right, Nellie. So I hunt around for some plates I can strip off some retired bus. A long and tedious story, but I finally find some and then - for a whole bunch of reasons - decide to just order them. And, heck, I see the airbags are all weather checked - holding air but probably not for long. Okay, replace them too. And anything else under there that looks iffy (which is most everything). Waiting for parts I do what I can with stuff I can get used and / or locally. By the time the parts arrive, missing certain little things - like bolts and rings. This is dragging into a three week project.

A few more tips: Don't let anyone talk you into those self-locking nuts (like they did me). You know, those ones with the nylon inserts? They torque the bolts instead of just pulling them tight, and the heads won't seat in the rings.

Also - this according to Ralph - paint the plates with gold paint to prevent electrolysis. I did the rings as well. I don't know where he got that info, or if it really helps, but Ralph seems to know these things. Anyway, can't hurt, right?

And, finally, try to get those pop-lock fittings and nylon air hose; much easier than using copper and trying to pre-cut everything to size.

Anyway, about the time I'm finishing up, I realize I can't go anywhere anyway - not until those boulders are cleared from the driveway (see photo I posted on BNO Face Book).

So a neighbor, Richard, agreed to come over with his front loader and move the rocks, amazed I'd been here 3 months and we'd never crossed paths. Well, we had actually, in a round about fashion. His dog - a huge chocolate lab - had taken to spending his nights in the bus (a story in itself).

Okay, boulders gone but holes to fix and soft ground needing to be packed and dried out... another couple days on that.

About then Richard offers his pit, his 50-ton jacks, whatever I need. So there's a pit right across the road! And, of course, I'm blocked up, wheels off and no air bags anyway. But still, if I can put the thing together and out the driveway, I can go over there to do the clutch.

That was a few days ago. Since then, I've buttoned up the air bag / plate job (I'll post some before and afters on BNO Face Book), the wheels are back on. And for the first time, the bus stands tall on all fours 24+ hours since last being aired up. Small miracles.

I've screwed up some courage now, so I'll break from writing this and (attempt to) move the bus to Richard's pit.
____

Hooray! Screwy clutch and all, she's moved. Nerve wracking, I can tell you. She's not on the pit yet, but parked in the shade until I get to town and round up some kind of air-conditioner. Hot, hot, hot!

Question: I tacked the airline, the one from the front plate to the rear plate, onto the top of the rear end with some rubberized undercoating. Now I'm wondering it that's okay. The new airline is DOT, but it's nylon (or plastic?) and I'm wondering about heat.

Question: Does anybody know about clutch adjustment on a 4-speed? I believe mine is a Dana 4484, but I'll double check. Hey, Ed (EdNJ), if you check in, could you still get me the pages on the clutch?
Re: the clutch: Haven't gotten far, but did manage to (finally) un-seize the adjustment handle and try to adjust with that. The clutch seems a little better ¡V it begins to engage closer to the floor, and not just at the top of the pedal (stroke), but it still must be pulled up (I have a cord tied around the pedal).

Soon as the clutch is fixed (or not?), headed down to Camp LeJeune, hang out at a friend's place, an old Gunny Sarge and one of his buddies - the head mechanic for the motor pool (you probably get my drift?).

Anyway, planning to park the bus there and get over to see Craig in Norfolk and Ed in Myrtle Beach.

That's my plan, anyway. But then again, we all know how my plans go, right? ...so, wish me good luck :-)

Thanks again, everybody!

Your Bus Nut Buddy,

Nellie Wilson
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 4:29 pm:   

Are you sure your great/great/great grand pappy weren't one of them Irish orphans fleeing the sud famine, that happened to land in Quebec and receive a name rearrangement Vive ? You really do seem suffer from the "luck o the irish" (me I am still waiting for the wanted/good kind to re-balance my universe) OK in reality we both know it is just a reflection of our complex existence, still the stress is worth it compared to say a tibetan monks existence often has been. Well no need to answer that "diet-tribe"; just know I wish you all the mechanical advisement you need ! & happy 21 st birthday sweaty ! you look some much younger than this, I bet you always getting I.Deed. on your way into playing guitar at those pub gigs (sheheshehe)
-perhaps some others shall pipe in "so say me-one; so say we-all" bus nuts , of all genders, three cheers for our singing mascot - - -?

-my sincerest and shallowest gratitude write back at you for any "upsetedness" you may have inspired me to create in myself by not righting home more often; almost may be believe I was human for a short moment here ! Look forward to your copywrite release on the internet , as it is some much quicker to burn a cd from a link to your face-bus than wait on the snail to hand deliver mail... not that am amongst those that could donate e-currency to finance your blossoming music career Nellie Wilson , but I do posses the desire too (FWITW).
E.T. adds " Thank you kindly for phoning home "!

: "now for something completely different" on with bus repair business:

~~~~~when my coach gets to needy, it gets tucked into a nice dry safe, reliable bed (ideally) until I may give it what it needs. I just jump into the old expendable "Winnbagal" to get the mission complete. They are so cheap these days (caveat emptor, do your pre-purchase inspection and basic PM before you go anywhere (fresh engine oil, ATF, coolant conditioner/lube, fresh filters all the way around, brake/suspension/tire inspections, etc. etc. check them four bolts & a couple of bucks later, yada yada...)

~~~~on those galvanic action stop/breaks, I use electric motor winding paint on both smoothed out surfaces & wait for it to cure (many coats on less than even), I happened to have picked up a case of red at a that last auction a few years back , so like all surplus junk , it is a race to use it or lose it. Yes lays use a insulating breaker , but don't forget the engineering concerns of parts alignment/tolerances and shear force coefficients or your modification may not last or be safe. I went to those MCI rolling lobe air bag conversion kits,but they are not just a two bolt installation as you must dill new holes, and that is a lot more of a tool challenge that it would seem if you are not removing the axle control links for "drill clearance"& bit , perhaps dang near impossible. I used a long process of angle drill and shortened bits, and that was with the bottom links removed for jacking clearance. Only two bolts per bag ehy???

+dot airlines worked fine, just make them long enough to re-route them to safety, attach them with silicon to the clean frame members and let set up (held in place with big magnets till silicon is set). Flush the system and filters, blow dry before final line assembly for un-murphy luck...

<p.s. don't overlook those corrison & crack fatigues that may need plating over before you add those new bags if your after a sound of mind repair...

~~~ great tip on those diapaphram mcgyversubstatoots for the quick release...

-all I shall ad is use new old tubes for long lastingness, wash powder off before installation & if your making a supply , store them in a nitrogen atomosphere for long shelf life (suck the freezer bag out and purge with nitrogen gas (mig welder with co2 mix is better than air)
before hermi-sealing that bag with a good "melted plastic twist tye"... don't want it to rupture and cause a accidental collison with he egg truck truck following your bus too close behind (hehehehe, me bad dog )

~~ if the sweet lab boyfriend of yours ran off with you standard issue anti-grav pods and chew up your 2x4 rock moving levers into toothpicks , you might ask for help to move those boulders, better than braking your back and buising your guitar digits. Never would of build those pyraimd landing pedestal thingsys if it weren't for a tongue to ask for help , would they (ok in reality we all now know they were just the orginal excuss for income taxation but how is that relivent to this thread ?)

++ more on those diaphrams, if it is not always feasable to do a road side patch up due to line fittings not being soaked in lube long enough, or inablity to use a torch near the flex lines or not enough wrenching room on the old lines, it may be possible to dissasemble in place and replace the parts with the guts from a new one of similar desing ( off the shelf macgyverism)

-just make certain to clean the casting and inspect for cracks (camera on a wire, endoscopes work for me here) and "soapy spray test "after assembly with the a stick on the brake pedal (see rover was just jumping the gun on splintering those 2x4s , {doog god})

~as always it is a wouderfilled delight to read your girly wrench post, valuable to all that will read on after us. Even if it makes your head swell so big you'll feel like you have two heads at times... You'll know what to do with them both (stick & staples and MC5 , wasn't talking about the mechanic like heads this time)

* & for the record/archives, some of them old winnabagos are not really stick'n'staples , my 75 custom on dodge (yuck) is aluminium bonded to foam with metal studs,
- still no where as safe or "murphy resitant" or durable as a intercity coach should be if properl maintained/refurbished, which is a job that never ever ends, until it ends up as a beer can or chevy part in a next life. But then you can get them stick & staples for a "cooper on the greenback" and any bus in restorable shape is going to run you at least a dime-on-the dollar , at least up here in the true north (cook-koo-ka-cew)

+++bus nut on our girl, your example is exemplmary , and there are far too few good examples to follow in these days to cumm+++
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 4:47 pm:   

Anybody know where i can pick up a universal translator? :>)
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 5:35 pm:   

we all came pre-equipped from the factory, but those silly docs hits the switch off , just after we fell out of our incubator units & landed on our asses (which nature designed to turn them on, by designed. Coincidently that is were us early model humanoids keep our primary brains, unlike yous later models , or so I've been told...hahehawww
???(& since when do we belive anything we are told to believe)???
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 7:12 pm:   

Unfortunately Clint, too many people believe Everything they are told to believe.
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 7:25 pm:   

ditto ... most unfortunate, perhaps they just lack visible alternative good examples to choose to follow ???

"""enter the bus nut crowd, very enlightened bunch from all walks of reality, highly mobile and very visible examples of collective independence & sustainable survival... keep the faith in reality during times of duress ! they are nutty, but a good bunch together or independent... blah blah blah..."""

-seeing how mom disowned me , I decide to look up "bus nuts" on that wickeropedia thingy anywhooooooooos. (or was it eye that suggested we get a divorce too save our friendship... sooOOO0000000o long ago, well not important, the main things is what wickerpeila says about us, I tend to believe every thing they say in that book...
Nellie Wilson (Vivianellie)
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 9:17 pm:   

Wow, how you guys come up with that stuff? Scary. Surreal. Not to mention, weird. :-)

Hey! Found my A/C. No fancy engineering required. No cutting, venting, unsightly (and fuel sucking) pods on the roof. Just a simple portable A/C from Wally World - that store we all love to hate.

Plug it in, set the temp and stick the exhaust out the little driver's window. Knocked the temp down from 95 to 84 in less than an hour. Not great, okay, but who's in a rush? Has a dehumidifier and fan mode as well, and a cute little remote, batteries (do you believe it!) included.

So really, what's all this cutting and welding and gnashing of teeth about? If we can keep the bus comfortable for a fraction the cost (and NONE of the labor) associated with 'made for RV' type appliances, why mess with it? I mean, didn't Clint just differentiate us - and don't we all - from sticks & staples people? I mean, we pride ourselves on this hard rock independence, then go out and copy the RV lifestyle model. But these are buses, not 'made for Granny Jones' condos on wheels. They're more fighter plane than cushy Gulf Streams (or whatever that corporate jet is called).

Okay, sorry for the diatribe ... just trying to keep up with Clint and Ed. Plus I'm kinda happy to find such a simple solution to - what I thought was - a complex problem.

I know a bunch of you might disagree, and for good reason. It's kinda like computer geeks: they looove to mess with computers. Me, I like to write on mine, watch some video, surf the internet. Trouble is, Geeks make the damn things, assuming everyone just loooooves to tweak them and experiment. I HATE having to mess with mine.

Many of you guys (don't deny it, a woman can tell) love screwing with your bus. Innovating, modifying, conceiving new twists and turns. Me, I just want the thing to get me from point A to Point B, as rapidly and efficiently and comfortably as possible.

Obviously I'm a loooong way from that but it's still my goal. So what blows my skirt up may leave you dead cold. Which I totally respect - you love your bus as a creative endeavour, while I view mine as a mode of transport negating the need for motels... while pursuing my creative endeavours.

Weird Nellie signing off, and hoping to sign in again ASAP, God willing and the creek don't rise...
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 10:36 pm:   

ehy not bad in the keep it simple department (kiss) as one favorite old bugger puts it.... I think your A/C "soulution" is just fine assuming the price has finally come down on those portables , could easy be used elsewhere too, and with a wee bit of kissing" made to run on the road".

-my favorite in-bus things are driving, drinking all kinds of tea and snoozing with the dogs in all sorts of places;

> crawling under it with wrenches in hand is the least favorite activity ; well next to breaking down in inconvenient places...

-had far too many years at wrenching on crap I didn't like for food, to even pretend to enjoy that end of the trade...

+ I do like to pass away my social frustration (sexual & intellectual)cybernetically, & with a little bus inventing & innovation , including research & networking on one of those weird bus forum places,

- I kind of fit right in and it makes me appear almost human...at least in my own day & night illusions.

...thanks again for sharing your girly bus ways with us...

=now how about some of you others slack fingered gals reading on out there in cyberland, don't be shy on the keyboard, it is just like a sewing machine only scarier.... so don't be scared either...we need your input too. (maybe just show your ring in the bus pic/profile so we singles don't accidentally flirt with yazs while we re-post...
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:27 am:   

Hey Nellie,

Since you moved the bus, does that mean that the clutch locks up when you pull on the rope? If thats the case, I would check the linkage before I pulled the clutch out. Maybe its binding or a bushing is frozen or something.
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:47 am:   

Hey Nellie! Glad to hear you are not bored! You amaze me - this bus thing is a really serious life-style, and to see a "girl" take on as much as you is really inspiring. I've been working my butt off getting my bus ready for Burningman, and it looks like I will make it. I've been doing 40-50 hours a week for months now, and she's looking pretty good. Got your CD's - thank you - and they will be playing on the playa in a week or so!

Keep up the fun updates, and best of luck in your travels...

Jim
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 2:55 am:   

Howdy jim -

Yup, seriouser and seriouser, this lifestyle I live :-). Man, I absolutely trust that "40-50 hours per week" comment. I thought my little jaunt was just a shakedown cruise, but the more I cruise, the more shakes down.

I'm happy for you - going to Burning Man - and very proud you're taking my (our) music along. I remember hearing there's a lot of really fine dust over there, almost like baby powder? So keep your stuff protected, okay? The best of everything and keep me (us) posted.

Larry - seems the clutch 'works' now (since I broke that adjustment knob free) but the pedal won't come back up by itself. I have to pull it up, sort of emulate the normal foot action by pulling the cord. And even then - once it's engaged - I have to reach down and tug the pedal the final inch or two. But the clutch seems strong, engages smoothly and allows me to shift from neutral into 1st or reverse without a lot of grinding. In short, it seems to function but the pedal doesn't want to come to the party. Go figure?

One other thing: Got a couple of busted springs but nobody seems to know what they're for - or where they hooked up. Not shown in the parts manual and I don't have the maintenance manual. Tomorrow it's a big power wash under the bus - then maybe I can see through 30 years of grease (which beats the heck out of rust).

Beddy-bye time.

Love ya,

Nellie Wilson
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 7:59 am:   

Just a speculation here as i have an auto tranny, but shouldn't there be a return spring on your clutch pedal that brings it back up? I think the first thing i would look for after you get the grease off, is for a spring with a broken end just hanging there.
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:03 am:   

Viv, we used a portable a/c in our 4905 and found it worked quite well. I ran the exhaust hose out the side of the bus with a small dryer vent on the end. don't forget to exit the small water hose out of the bus, or minor flood may occur.
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:28 am:   

I may be imagining things but didn't you have an old post about discovering an air assist clyinder for your clutch that wasn't hooked up or turned on??? Perhaps there was a reason it was disengaged and it is contributing to your pedal not returning...just a thought
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 10:29 am:   

+ don't some of those air assist cylinders on old mci have a coil spring in the chamber that can break and hang up, I am sure i found a few on tensioner system ?

++don't forget to inspect the bushing on the linkage for seizure and bearing pile-ups/binding, bent out of functional alignment (have that chocolate lab assistant actuate the pedal while you look'n'feel that joint for smoothness, safe heat is your best tool for loosing up crusty old grease to allow flushing with a grease gun, then retest.

-I have often rebuilt old worn linkage parts by brazing and re-tooling both the outy & inny parts, drills and grinds well (with a burr bit or a coarse rasp, fine files just clog up) grease often and it will last a very long time. Those bushings are not always easy to find and what else can you do when the steel parts are worn to big or oval like, short of entire replacement of parts you can not get or get out ?

< Just shield against fire when heating or brazing and have a fire extinguisher handy (tin, heavy duty aluminum foil from last nights bake spuds you did on the engine warming portable barbecue) , also degrease the area first, with your hazmat protection on please, as brake cleaner is very toxic and hurts eyes bad ( i was just reminded a few days back of toxicity)

...cleaver girls such as our willy nelson "don't need know stinking luck": just the knowledge, skill , tools, supplies and will, so good luck realizing what you have & pehaps also in finding/acquiring what you need, {think macgyverism} as you bus refurbish "onwards & upwards"...
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 6:30 am:   

Hey Nellie,

Good to hear you are back and having fun like the rest of us!

I've been building cabinets for the past month, about finished. Well almost anyway, we're really never finished with these monsters!

If your clutch pedal does not come up, I agree it must be a return spring broken somewhere. Find it and get rid of the rope!

Paul
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 8:46 am:   

Welcome back Nellie, Hope things start rolling your way soon. I have given up on my MC5C and bought a Gm that was converted already, so if you need a spare bus...lol
Good Luck, John and Barb
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 10:08 am:   

The return Spring is in the compartment under the drivers seat Shown in parts manual in plat 5-4 number 20 and maintenance manual figure 5-1 page 5-2. Its a big spring as you look in the compartment look up at the linkage if you do not see a big spring or if its stretched replace and notice the master Lub plate the 2 at the bottom are for the Clutch. Grease every 1,500 miles.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 1:10 pm:   

FYI: Just some correspondece you might find of interest.




Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:52:07 -0700
> From: evans.motorsport@yahoo.com
> Subject: MCI 5C clutch
> To: Music4u2@hotmail.com
>
> Nellie, I follow the BNO chat group but haven't figured out how to get it to let me join. I read about your issues with your clutch, and since I've been adjusting the clutch on my MCI MC-5C, i thought I could maybe help. Below is a thread where I discussed it, and there is a good picture of a clutch mechanism that is about identical to yours.
>
> the adjustment knob you seem to have figured out. the pedal return spring is located under the drivers seat area, you get to it by opening the door that the accessory air tank is behind. It's a coil spring about 6 inches long and 1 inch in diameter, and it acts directly on the clutch linkage arm that the pedal arm is connected to. You can see it clearly in the diagram posted in the link below.
>
> Please let me know if you get things sorted. Cheers, Brian (fellow Canadian, btw)
>
> http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=12736.msg134034#msg134034


Thanks Brian,

Awfully nice of you to take the time. Regarding joing the BNO site, it's a bit of a pain - took me a couple days to get 'accepted.' Ian - owner of the site - just tries to ensure that nobody is joining to promote some commercial enterprise, etc. His name is Ian Giffen and he lives in Toronto (a fellow Canucker). I believe You can access his info on his profile page, or I'll send you his email & phone number. I hope you do join - I think you'd be a great asset to our strange little community.

To the clutch: I have located a spring - fairly large - but it is not directly under the driver's seat; it's further towards the middle of the bus. Only access is by removing spare wheel and and cowling cover (above spare wheel). So is this a different spring?

I have some other springs (smaller, about the diameter of, say, a screen door spring - on the clutch housing itself. one of these (maybe two?) have broken off, and the one remaing is quite old and rusty. But I have no idea what they are or what they're supposed to do. My guess is that they are some sort of 'helper' springs. Does your bus have these, or are they something somebody added?

I read the posts on your link with great interest, but could not figure how to view the diagrams discussed. Maybe you could give me some guidance on that? I see that others have xiewed them, but I cn't figure out where to click.

Hope you don't mind, but I'm going to post your email and this reply on the "Wish Me Luck" thread. It's good info and some Bus Nuts (myself included) may not be aware of this 'busconversions' site. Plus, it'll give Ian a heads up that you may want to join.

Thanks again,
Nellie
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 1:28 pm:   

John and Barb -

Good to hear! Sorry to hear you called it quits on the old 5C, but I sure know where you're coming from. Man, some days it takes all my will just to keep plodding (and some days, truth be told, I just can't).

But gertting a bus already converted soundslike an AWFULLY good deal! Get to actually go out and enjoy it instead of working on the ^#@&* thing. I swear, sometimes it feels I spend more time UNDER it than in it.

Hey, if you're even halfway serious about that "If you need a spare bus" suggestion, I'd sure like to talk. Maybe give you a jingle in the next day or so (I assume the number is on your profile page is still good)?

BTW, I can really relate to that 'more tools than knowledge' comment :-)

Nellie Wilson
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 5:26 pm:   

but put into perspective :

a new coach that does not suffer wear & tear , corrosion ,etc starts at half a million bucks or 23.7 pounds of gold, still has problems to pay even bigger bucks to repair (as it is designed to be impractical for jane or joe handy wrench to repair)& maintain, and you still haven't payed some coach conversion specialist the other 24.3 lbs. of gold to make it "just the way you like it" .

=so doing the math, how much are you paying yourself to keep it alive, and you don't even have a million dollars shop or a life time of effort apprenticing to learn the how too. So not a bad deal when you crunch the Numbers the "reality way". And what are these skill your practicing going to be worth in your future, and the experiences you observe and collect all along the way ?

not that there is anything wrong with bitching, I do it to the machine all the time, as they never get offended , only broken & fixed, broken & fixed, broken & fixed, broken & fixed broken & fixed. (as mcjayNINE might say if he wasn't out snacking on prawns for his daily fatty acid intake, which won't work as it is fish that have the omega 3 or none GM0 flax)

-well that was my lunch break , back to pullling them wrenches on crap that is not of the bus kind , signnnnnnnnnnn ,. I got three hungry dogs and a needy old bus to feed.

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