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| Fraser Field (Fraser8)
Registered Member Username: Fraser8 Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 24.71.21.162 Rating: N/A |
I have Garrison steering on my 72 Provost, with a manual steering box. I'm told I should change to a power steering box and omit the Garrison system. Could I get your thoughts and ideas should I rebuild the Garrison system or upgrade. I have above average mechanical skills, with a fully equipped shop, but this is a little different and would like some advice and direction. Thanks, Fraser   | ||
| Mark Morgan (Stormcloud)
Registered Member Username: Stormcloud Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2008 Posted From: 216.36.185.40 Rating: N/A |
...and if you want to practice on one before doing yours, I would gladly volunteer the Papabus. When could you come out to do it? Regards. Mark and Donna | ||
| Fraser Field (Fraser8)
Registered Member Username: Fraser8 Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 24.71.21.162 Rating: N/A |
As soon as you get rid of the mosquitoes. Good to hear from you Mark, Bob was over to see me. Had a good chat but I've been unable to hook up with him... We're in Cypress River Man,next August. We're to the Spokane rally next week and then to the Salmon Arm one the weekend after.. All the best, I'm using your umbrella, thanks | ||
| Don Evans (Doninwa)
Registered Member Username: Doninwa Post Number: 226 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 208.81.157.90  Rating: N/A |
Spokane rally? Tell us more. Please! Don 4107 South of Spookaloo about 25 miles. | ||
| Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
Registered Member Username: Dreamscape Post Number: 568 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 64.40.216.58  Rating: N/A |
Yes, more information on the Spokane rally please! A friend of mine lives in Vancouver WA that might be interested. Paul | ||
| Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
Registered Member Username: Zubzub Post Number: 104 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 174.91.216.40  Rating: N/A |
not sure about the garrison to full power switch, but I have heardf a few times that a well tuned power assist is just as pleasant as full assist Sheppard. If it ain't broke? Also manual box with assist is still drivable if there is a problem with the hydraulics. (Message edited by zubzub on September 03, 2009) | ||
| Fraser Field (Fraser8)
Registered Member Username: Fraser8 Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 24.71.21.162 Rating: N/A |
My Garrison is getting a lot of play in it. Rally: This is the information I have. BC BUS NUTS September 2009 Rally September 11th, 12th & 13th Klinks Williams Lake Resort... 18617 West Williams Lake Rd Cheney, Washington, USA www.klinksresort.com Check out their website for resort information & amenities See reverse for rally agenda and driving directions RALLY HOSTS: Klink Klinkenberg & Dusty Klinkenberg RALLY FEES (includes 3 days full hookup camping, 3 dinners, 3 breakfasts) Coach with 2 people $125.00 Canadian ($110.00 US) Coach with 1 person $ 65.00 Canadian ($ 55.00 US) Additional Guests $ 55.00 Canadian ($ 48.00 US) Children Free Guests for dinner only $ 25.00 Canadian ($ 22.00 US) EARLY ARRIVALS: If you plan on arriving earlier than Friday, September 11th, cost is $29.95 + tax, per day. Please book additional day(s) directly with the resort…info on their website or call: 1-509-235-2391 GOLFERS: Lots of excellent courses in the area so don’t forget your clubs. We are advised that there are several city courses in the area that have quite reasonable rates. SHOPPERS: Cheney is just minutes away and Spokane is only a beautiful 40 minute drive. Lots to see and do and explore in both cities and in between. DEADLINE - AUGUST 31, 2009 Mail form below along with your cheque PAYABLE TO BC BUS NUTS to Arlene Wyenberg 9658 River Rd. Delta, BC V4G 1B5 Names LAST NAME FIRST NAME SPOUSE’S NAME Address F.M.C.A. Number __________ _First time rally? Yes No Number of Guests for Dinner: Saturday____Sunday _____ Guest’s Names(if applicable): ______ To ensure a proper site, please advise size of rig:___________feet & require, minimum 30 or 50 amp (please circle) There are lots of 30 amp sites available and a few 50 amps. Those requesting/requiring 50 amps will be assigned on a first come first served basis E-mail address: (please print clearly)___________________________________________________________________ Contact Phone Number(s):__________________________________________________________________________ RALLY AGENDA FRIDAY, September 11th - Arrival & Check in at resort office for site # assignment - Lunch on your own - Happy hour meet & greet 4:00 pm - Dinner @ 5:00 pm…Stew/Chili with bread - SATURDAY, September 12th - Breakfast @ 8:00 am - CHAPTER ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING @ 9:30 am Elections: Director & Treasurer positions - Lunch on your own - Happy hour @ 4:00 pm - Dinner @ 5:00 pm SUNDAY, September 13th - Breakfast @ 8:00 am - Lunch on your own Ladies Red Hat Luncheon from 12:00 to 2:30. Bring your own lunch AND a dessert or cookie/slice/cake; a sample of which will be displayed on a tray for a “memory game” that will be explained at the luncheon. Don’t forget your teacup and perhaps a wee dram of something special to help digest your lunch!! - Dinner @ 5:00 pm MONDAY, September 14th - Continental Breakfast @ 8:00 - Departure DIRECTIONS: Coming from the West: From I-90 Eastbound, take the Sprague Exit # 245. Take a right at the stop sign. Go one block, make another right. Take your first left, and then the first left following that. Go approximately 2 miles and make a right (follow signs for Martin Road). Martin Road will become Mullenix Road. From Mullenix Road, take a right onto Williams Lake Road, go about 2 miles, and Klink’s is on your right. Coming from the East: From I-90 Westbound, take Exit # 270 (Cheney/Four Lakes Exit). This puts you on highway 904, which goes through Cheney. Drive through the town of Cheney, and make a left onto Cheney Plaza Road – across from the Mitchell’s Harvest Foods grocery store. Go about 12 miles, and make a right onto Williams Lake Road. Go about 2 miles, and Klink’s Williams Lake Resort will be on your left. . | ||
| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 271 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 64.12.116.203 Rating: N/A |
That looks like a lash adjustment bolt on the side of the Garrison, have you kept it adjusted? There isn't much to rebuild those either, usually some bushings and gaskets. If you don't like the way it drives and you are sure its the steering box change it. If you like the way it drives just repair your box. Lots of things affect drive ability. Is it low in the front? Is the toe close? Raising my front really helped the way my Eagle drives out. Go for the high side on steer axle ride height and see if you like it. | ||
| Fraser Field (Fraser8)
Registered Member Username: Fraser8 Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 24.71.21.162 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Larry, I can put my hand on the steering wheel shaft at the steering box. The box is tight the slack is in the Garrison, the part with the hoses on it slides back and forth causing slack/play in the steering wheel. The comments I get are I should rebuild the unit as they work very well when tight, its 37 years old so may need the odd new gaskets. If it lasts another 37 years I'll be 98 years old and won't care. Has anyone have a rebuild diagram ? | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1616 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.110.9  Rating: N/A |
Apparently it is an assist system. Personally, I'd go to the full power system and omit that unless it is very popular and parts are easy to obtain. Most power assist systems have more play than full power units, even when new. Changing later may be more difficult as parts get harder to obtain for older units. | ||
| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 272 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 64.12.116.203 Rating: N/A |
Fraser, I have had good luck working with Straight Line Steering in San Jose. They have a web site that is also helpful. straightline steering.com You can use their trouble shooting information, it may help. It will at least give you some ideas that you can check before you rebuild the assist. If shipping to Canada is an issue, they will probably tell you what parts kit you are looking for so you can get it up north. I would think the set up you have is quality, being factory Prevost and that you would be happy with it when it is repaired. Lucas makes a lube additive for worn Power Steering units that may help your hydraulics. It's a small bottle of red stuff if I remember right. I liked what it did for my unit. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1619 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.110.9 Rating: N/A |
Early GM's had power assist units also; different brand. They finally went with full power units. No play, fewer components to repair and maintain, and less maintenance. | ||
| Merlin Westphal (Merlinpv)
Registered Member Username: Merlinpv Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 75.216.99.108 Rating: N/A |
the garrison unit will have some play when the engine is not running,but when there is pressure in the unit the play should be gone be sure the drag link adjustment nuts are at the proper tension as this will create undue play also I have this unit on my 77 prevo and I would not change it as the structure around the steering box will not take the strain from the full power units without major mods. | ||
| Fraser Field (Fraser8)
Registered Member Username: Fraser8 Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2008 Posted From: 24.71.21.162 Rating: N/A |
I sent an inquiry to Straight Line to ask about rebuild vs new pump. I included the pictures so I should hear back from them. I would prefer not to change the system as then I have to cut and weld etc. |