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| Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona Post Number: 140 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.210.245.71  Rating: N/A |
Got every thing done changed the filter what a job that was. OK now the fill plug will not come out I'm hoping its not a back wards threaded plug but penetrating lubricant and still no go any Ideas I don't want to break it off in their??? Rob | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 608 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.155.14  Rating: |
Rob; can you get to it with a hammer? Try hitting it HARD and then try it again. If that don't work, get a little torch and heat around the housing at the plug not the plug while appling some pressure on the plug. GOOD LUCK Gomer | ||
| Nellie Wilson (Vivianellie)
Registered Member Username: Vivianellie Post Number: 330 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 75.178.92.43  Rating: N/A |
Wait, wait, wait... let me catch up. "Got everything done..."? That covers a lot of ground, Rob. Like what, specifically? Or did I miss something? Is there a previous thread I should look at? Didn't see any with subject of "4 speed transmision." What fill plug? Mine just has a cap & fill tube. Please bring me up to speed, as I have a 4-speed too... and I'd really like to learn about whatever it is you're doing. Thanks, Nellie Wilson | ||
| Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona Post Number: 141 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.209.58.204 Rating: N/A |
I undid the Plug at the bottom of the transmission and drained the fluid looked to be good. then I undid the 6 nuts and took off the side cover the Filter and cleaned boy was that dirty full of sludge. put in a new filter and gaskets let it dry some and went for the fill plug on the side toward the passenger side. and no go would not turn. Nellie where is the fill tube on yours I have not found that on mine and my DA BOOK does not show it ether. So you see just a simple job> :-( I will try that Gomer I did hit it with a Hammer but did not try the heat. Rob | ||
| Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
Registered Member Username: Zubzub Post Number: 108 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 70.52.28.153  Rating: N/A |
Bigger wrench. I have a huge one (2' long) and I have taken to using it wherever I can on the bus. (I want a bigger one) Even for little bitty bits that haven't moved in a long time. The trick is to use short jerking movements not long slow pulls, the long slow pulls will stretch and break bits (like an elastic) whereas the short jerks will get the job done. Heat as well of course, I have had good results with MAP gas, sometimes 2 at the same time leave them there for 5 mins or so. Beware MAP gas is too hot for brass, it will crumble under the heat. | ||
| Nellie Wilson (Vivianellie)
Registered Member Username: Vivianellie Post Number: 332 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 75.178.92.43 Rating: N/A |
Rob - My tranny has a combination dipstick & fill tube inside the rearmost driver's side door (same door that accessed the original sewage dump). Might be that we've got different trannys, though I've heard they were all the same - Spicer 4484s, as I recall? (But subject to correction). Anyhoo, I'll see if I can get a good photo of that area... then I'll see if I can remember how to post it. Might be easier on the Facebook site - no re-sizing to worry about (are you a member yet? If not, you can jump on today without an invite.) Good luck on that plug! Nellie | ||
| Chuck Newman (Chuck_newman)
Registered Member Username: Chuck_newman Post Number: 403 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 99.170.65.116  Rating: N/A |
I keep a mallet on hand for the "short jerks" required on hardware. It's about 7 to 10 lbs, but only requires short, light taps with the mallet on a wrench. The mass produces the same shock value that the short jerks do, without stressing old muscles and tendons. The latter doesn't like short jerks. Works great. Also used in getting lug nuts off that another jerk put on too tight. | ||
| Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona Post Number: 142 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.209.58.204 Rating: N/A |
I have a 2' wrench and the 7lb hammer and did the heat (not a brass plug) lots of penetrating lubricant still no go but on lots more penetrating lubricant see what happens I'll let it sit again. Is their a socket that would fit my air hammer (one handed) that is Square for this kind of Plug???? Nellie yes we have the same tranny the fill tube might go into one of the two side plugs?? yes I'm on facebook now TKS to you! and a picture would be great! and maybe I could retro fit one on Mine that would sure make it easy! Rob (Message edited by Robsedona on October 03, 2009) | ||
| Bob MacIsaac (Wildbob24)
Registered Member Username: Wildbob24 Post Number: 42 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 68.158.244.197  Rating: N/A |
There are 8 point sockets that will fit on square heads. You'll need to measure the head to determine the size you need. Tapered pipe threads can be a pain....it doesn't take much to over tighten them which makes it tough on the next guy. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1667 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
If it is a pipe plug, try melting some candle wax at the threads while it is hot; it should draw in as it cools and help in removal. | ||
| Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona Post Number: 144 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.209.58.204 Rating: |
Got it Heat tap penetrating lubricant let stand over and over came lose a day long Job Filled her up What a good feeling. I will try the wax if it hapnes again on some plug. Thanks for all the advice. Rob | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 980 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.202.165.190  Rating: N/A |
Some times a tap in the WRONG direction, tightning will help break free the crud. With some care LP teflon tape (much thicker and colored yellow) could be used when you finish draining. IF anything but nice oil comes out , you might consider installing the plug and dumping in a couple of quarts of diesel, and draining it after a sit. Don't run it , just let the diesel dissolve and hopefully transport the gunk. FF | ||
| Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona Post Number: 147 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.211.123.155 Rating: N/A |
FF the oil in the tranny was good in the filter housing on the filter and under it was old Sludge and was painted inside and out red like the engine so I think was not changed in a long long time! I did not find any Medal so I think I'm Good. Looking inside the covers on both sides looked great gears looked good and no curd on the bottom of case! |
