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| Dennis Tracy (Eagle10)
Registered Member Username: Eagle10 Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 68.238.51.43 Rating: N/A |
We are heading to Arcadia 10. This is our 4th one and have enjoyed them all. Just bought a 1994 Jeep Wrangler, 5 speed for towing. Transfer case in neutral, transmission in (neutral or 5th gear)?, turn key one notch. Neutral or 5th?? Thanks. | ||
| Phil Smith (Phil_smith)
Registered Member Username: Phil_smith Post Number: 44 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 24.116.71.31 Rating: N/A |
We tow a 97 Wrangler 5-sp.. I put the xfr case in Neutral and the trans in 4th gear ( 5th would be fine as well ). The theory is to keep the trans shafts from turning in the trans (lubrication issues ) and letting the xfr case spin with the differential. Also, if by some chance, the xfr shifter gets rattled in gear, the engine will be spinning at some 'tolerable' rpm. The manual (Jeep) advises on how to do this, and common sense prevails. The main issue for the trans is: If it's in gear and not spinning, it doesn't need lubrication. On the other hand. The transfer case is angled such that the spinning parts driven by the differential turning are lubed by the level of oil in the lower part of the case. Hence they get lubed while in neutral.. Love my Jeep | ||
| John Lacey (Junkman42)
Registered Member Username: Junkman42 Post Number: 103 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 66.82.9.58  Rating: N/A |
I tow a 1995 jeep wrangler and tow with the transfer case in neutral and the tranny in 4th gear. The NPR transfer case has a oil pump built in that drives off of the output shaft. If you have a four wheel drive catalog look at the parts breakdown. Nice of jeep to think of Us. Regards, John | ||
| Phil Smith (Phil_smith)
Registered Member Username: Phil_smith Post Number: 45 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 24.116.71.31 Rating: N/A |
John, I just learned something ( the oil pump ). Thanks Phil | ||
| ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
Registered Member Username: Shadowman Post Number: 174 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 75.216.28.6 Rating: |
The ONLY way to be positively sure for any vehicle is to look at the owners manual for that car for that year! Sometimes things change from one year to the next so unless you want to take the risk of buying a new tranny or transfer case, get the book. Cost a friend of mine $4000 for a new tranny because he did the same procedure on his new jeep that he had always done on his old one. | ||
| Perry &Jeanne Blanch (Perryaw3)
Registered Member Username: Perryaw3 Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 70.51.62.253  Rating: N/A |
We've towed a 2005 Wrangler since new, works great,electronic speedo doesn't add miles while towing. If you have a model with the ignition chip built into the key you can have a regular $2(non-chip) key cut to leave in the ignition lock while towing. The non-chip key will only allow Jeep to run for a second or two. This way when stopped no worries about someone driving off with your toad! | ||
| Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona Post Number: 157 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.211.125.140  Rating: N/A |
Call the Dealer and ask them Ed is right different for different years I have alway found that the Dealers knows what to do OR can look it up fast for you! | ||
| ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
Registered Member Username: Shadowman Post Number: 175 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.193.151.51 Rating: N/A |
I would want to see it in writing for myself......people will tell you anything. | ||
| Josh McElhiney (Zcommanager)
Registered Member Username: Zcommanager Post Number: 61 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 75.187.41.177  Rating: N/A |
No kidding, Ed! Definitely is not worth having to spend $4K on a new tranny when a quick trip to the dealer or flip through the manual would have sufficed... | ||
| George M. Todd (George_mc6)
Registered Member Username: George_mc6 Post Number: 922 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 64.55.111.6 Rating: |
Ed and Rob are right, the transfer case and/or trans MUST be designed for towing, either with a lube pump on the output shaft, or splash lube by the gears. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can a toad be towed with a stick shift and transfer case in gear! My Aunt & Uncle found this out the hard way when they hooked their new (mid 80s) Mazda P/U toad to their MC1 in Palm Springs, and forgot to take the trans out of gear. A few minutes later when they looked back and saw smoke, the Mazda was fully involved, due to all the raw gas pulled thru the engine into the still warm catalytic converter. Second incident was a small p/u towed into JR's transmissions here in Auburn with a HOLE in the floorboard, (torn in it by the shifter) the trans and driveshaft were gone, only little pieces of casting left around the bolts on the bell housing, and the back trans mount. The u-joint yoke on the diff was ripped apart, and the underside of the truck was pretty beat up. The toad's owner said he never felt anything unusual behind his 30 foot M/H, and had come several hundred miles since he hooked up. Since he didn't have a running toad, he didn't drive back to see if he could find where the trans fell out. He wasn't sure whether he put the trans or the transfer case in neutral when he hooked up, leaving about ten of us looking at the damage to guess that he left the transfer case in gear which turned the rear of the trans without lube. When the trans siezed, the driveline apparently was strong enough to twist the trans off of the back of the clutch, and the shifter tore a hole thru the floorboards on the way out! Moral of this story is to check your owner's manual BEFORE you buy, and check your toad AFTER you hook up! G | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 364 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
George This is slightly off topic, but you mention your Aunt and Uncle hooking onto their MC1. As far I can determine, there were a total of 17 MC1's built, and we have one of them. Any idea if theirs or any others might still be around? Hey I just realized that is even more rare by a factor of 6 than the elusive MC6. Joe. | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 951 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.211.30.51 Rating: N/A |
Good to see you "back" George...not sure it is "off topic"...perhaps different model...  RCB | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 616 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.155.14  Rating: N/A |
I am on RC's side good to see you [?] George. Thanks again Gomer | ||
| Dennis Tracy (Eagle10)
Registered Member Username: Eagle10 Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 75.195.216.141 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for all the help. I guess the thing to do is find a 1994 for a Jeep Wrangler to be sure. |
