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Johnny (67.241.224.87)

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Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 9:00 pm:   

It's a 4-71 inline, no turbo, 2 valve, powering a generator (so no road tax issues). Normal use: Fire up, idle 2-3 minutes to warm the oil, then run 16-1700RPM for 4-72 hours. Idle 2-3 minutes to cool, shut down for 6-12 hours, then start the cycle over again. Since heatinng oil is cheaper than even red (off-road) diesel--for now, at least--can the DD run it safely? The last engine went over 30,000 hours withouit an overhaul before some idiot tried to use half a can of ether to start it (don't ask--and no, it wasn't me), so the new (used) 4-71 has some big shoes to fill.

And CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO STOP THAT FRIGGING VALVE COVER OIL LEAK?!
Luke Bonagura (Lukeatuscoach) (12.90.1.54)

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Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 9:19 pm:   

Hi Johnny:
A few years back when diesel prices went crazy, I had a bus operating tenant that decided to out-fox the law & ran his buses on heating oil.
A bit more exhaust smoke but they ran.
It all has to do with the refining.

With regard to your valve cover leak.
Have you replaced the gasket???
If so & it is the original tin cover & is still leaking, it could be the result of over-tightening.
The engine has obviously been around for a while.
The fix????
Take it over and if you have some real wide "seat clamps" put some wood or metal braces on each side of the cover and "SQUEEZE".
I have seen it work & not work, depends upon the amount of distortion!!!
I Hope this HELPS!!!!
LUKE at US COACH
jmaxwell (66.42.92.17)

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Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 2:09 am:   

In CA., even the heating oil has dye added. That should be uniform for all states, since this dye thing is a federal requirement. I bought a 550 gal. tank for this purpose at just about the same time they started adding dye to heating oil. Oh well, can't win em' all. I suppose if ure good friends with the supplier, he might leave the dye out for u, if he happens to be the 1st in line of distribution; if not, it was dyed before he got it, by law.
FAST FRED (209.26.115.211)

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Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 5:57 am:   

The biggest problem with heating oil is much of it is dirty , compared to what diesel should be.

Simple solution is a big PRIMARY filter as fund on many boats.

These will have a clear bowl so you can see the water , gunk collect , and drain it as necessary.

Some house fuel has high sulphor content so have the engine oil analized a bit early ,

OR use Da Book recomendations for oil changes with hi sulphor fuel.

Long runs will keep your DD happy!

FAST FRED
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (63.224.197.10)

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Posted on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 6:00 pm:   

Imagine the comparison between airplane gasoline and car gas and then extend it to the difference between heating oil and automotive diesel fuel.

Fred is right. Heating oil has a whole different requirement for the amount of water and dirt in the fuel. Using heating oil on an extended basis as motor fuel would not be a good idea.

The dirt and water in the fuel would eventually catch up with the filtures and such--probably over time hurting the engine. All it takes is a little. Good luck.
06 Bill (63.214.112.98)

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Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 10:49 am:   

Our home heating oil bill is stamped :
Dyed #2 Diesel Fuel Nontaxable use only. Penalty
for taxable use. That says to me same stuff.
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (63.224.197.10)

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Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 7:15 pm:   

Hello Bill; It all depends also where the heating oil comes from. Years ago, all the major brands of gasoline all came from the same source and just the additives and dyes were different.

However, with heating oil, one can never be sure where the stuff comes from or how old it is; perhaps like in your case, it is exactly the same as untaxed #2 diesel. The point is that it also may not be.

If the product says it is #2 untaxed diesel fuel being sold as #2 heating oil, then probably (not always) it is the same as #2 diesel and you can legally use it as a heating fuel.

You can also use it as a gen set fuel source as long as it never sees the main diesel engine of the coach. Then you are big time illegal.

If you are parked for long periods of time in cold weather, then your #2 heating fuel would work fine also in the diesel gen set. In the long run, you could save some $money$. Good luck.

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