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Paso One (Paso_1)
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Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 7:49 pm:   

Well I had another productive day removing the power train from my bus. Donor bus powertrain was pulled out a couple of weeks ago.
Now I need to repair and modify the bulkhead. Attached is the two bulkheads to compare. looks like a easy job.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 7:58 pm:   

am curious as to what reinforcement they actually did at the factory. I suspect that you removed a manual transmission, although tdh should be a VS series?
Paso One (Paso_1)
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Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 8:08 pm:   

Yes the picture on the right is the hole for the manual tranny and the VH and VS series.
The picture on the left is the V730 Measuring the big hole it is 24 inches left to right.
The smaller hole is 19 inches. Not much factory reinforcement in my opinion it is more like panel stiffening than reinforcement. The big hole is open at bottom except for a small piece of angle iron that crosses under tranny.
Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
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Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 10:22 pm:   

Make the opening as large as possible to make it easier to work on. Just make sure you make a removable piece to replace the bottom like on the old donor bus. I did it 20+ years ago and have not had any issues with it.
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Paso One (Paso_1)
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Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 8:37 am:   

Thanks Bill for the extra tip I was thinking of making it bigger. But concerned of taking extra. I'm glad you chimed in on it. If it worked for you for 20 + it's good enough for me. :-)
ned sanders (Uncle_ned)
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Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 9:57 am:   

O my 04 we cut a piece of quater inch of steel and covered the bulkhead. bolted it in place with bolts at every rivit.welded the hanger to the plate.took several tries to get the hole right for the 730.
Paso One (Paso_1)
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Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:58 am:   

Ned that was my plan of attack bolting 1/4 plate to the existing bulkhead on the radiator side, as it is broken thru at very bottom. The top is in very condition. I was also planning on putting a new angle iron acrooss the lower bottom and have a removalable piece where Bill mentioned. What caused several tries for your installation ? not removing enough material??
Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
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Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:03 am:   

I see you are running a 5303. Same as I am. I remember an angle iron which kind of limits the width of the opening. I stopped there but wish I had relocated the angle iron for even more room. The more the better. I see you haven't got the rear access panel off on your bus. I hope you still can open it as it is almost impossible to change the starter without access through the opening.
Bill
Paso One (Paso_1)
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Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 2:39 pm:   

I was thinking of wether I should relocate the angle iron because, I would actually be cutting almost all the way thru it anyway.
The access panel on my bus is already a removable panel, I have a harness and heater hose going to the webasto and the heat exchanger that heats my water heater when going down the road enters thru that panel. If it is the same panel your talking about you can see it in the picture on the right it is the light colored plywood.
Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
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Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 6:48 pm:   

The panel I mentioned is the one that is the seat portion of the orginal rear seat. I think there are 8 or 10 screws holding it in. It is a curved shape.
If you cut through the angle iron might be an idea to just move it over and rebolt it back in place. It stiffens the bulkhead.
Bill
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Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   

Okay yes I know the panel you are referring to it is above the one I was talking about. When you lift the back seat back rest. What do you think is the better muffler to use the one with 2 inlets or the one with one I'm leaning to the two outlet muffler in the pictures.
Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 12:22 am:   

The two inlet one has more pipe area. The more the better. I have put in a 6V92TA DDEC IV with a 5" in and out muffler. No back pressure there. The engine must breath.
Bill

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