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John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   

I am sure this has been discussed before, but I wonder if anyone has any good ideas for a shield or something (I am thinking plywood) that would mount in front of our Focus (maybe on the towbar) and keep some of the DD flotsam and jetson (read oil smoke) off the front of the car.
Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:53 pm:   

John
Do you use a container with the air box drains in it? It saves a lot of mess on the toad and the rear of the bus.
Bill
Roger Baughman (Roger)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:36 am:   

Bill, could you provide more details on the air box and drains. Thanks
RJ Long (Rjlong)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:44 am:   

John & Roger -

Do a search of the archives. Recently Jack Conrad posted a pic of the air box drain canister he built out of PVC pipe.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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Roger Baughman (Roger)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 1:04 am:   

RJ, I tryed the archives for air box drains and Jack Conrad. I did not find anything about air box drains for last 60 days.
Jim Wallin (Powderseeker01)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 6:58 am:   

A roof spoiler works great. RV supply houses also generally have a variety of shields made of a heave shadecloth like material that attaches accross the rear bumper and the toad bumper.
David Evans (Dmd)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 7:03 am:   

Jack also made a shield for his toad (Jeep cherokee?) that attached to his tow bar. they make commercial ones also, plus the skirt option and its related pros and cons.
Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 8:39 am:   

Roger
You feed the two tubes from the air boxes into a canister mounted down as low as possible. I used an old fire extingisher. Put a vent on the top of it and a drain in one end with a drain cock on it so you can empty it every once in awhile. The idea is to collect the residue from the tubes and not block the air flow from the air boxes. This stops the oil splatter on the rear of the coach and toad. Hope this helps you.
Bill
John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 8:44 am:   

Wow, thanks for all the good ideas. I went looking and found a commercial unit for the drain tubes. Looks like a simple build with some pvc and a few fittings. I wanted something like that anyway as this engine leaves some oil residue where you park. I will leave a link to the unit I am going to copy. Not sure about the need for the fancy breather although some type of vent will be needed.
http://www.walkerairsep.com/pdf/installation/Airbox%20Drain%20Kit%20AJ4120KT.pdf

I may go ahead with a shield of some kind too, might a catch a rock or skunk or something.
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:24 am:   

Interesting subject....

RJL..from what I am reading in the Archives, this "airbox" thing must be peculiar to rear mounted DDs. Question: would something like this work in amidships setup like mine?

I get a LOT of nasty stuff...not wet, (just clings), on the bonnet and rear bumpers. Not sure how this would work.

Insight appreciated! :-)

Thanx
RCB
Bob Baldwin (Bob4106)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:58 am:   

Hi
I bought the walker air box drain kit, and very happy with it. About 85% cleaner on the toad and the back of the bus. The other 10% was the fan drive needed the seal replaced. With the seal replaced on the fan drive, looks like the 5% is just fuel.
Roger Baughman (Roger)
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Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:22 am:   

I am sorry to harp on this, but I want to know more details. I check the archives back 6 months and could not find it.. The air box you are talking about, is it the conpartment where the squarel cage fans are for the radiator cooling above the engine. MCI-9 8V71. Thanks for all of your help.
John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:25 am:   

Roger the one I have seen and the one I have the link to, mounts on the bottom edge of the engine and the two "slobber tubes" (breathers) run into it. It allows them to breath without the oil running out and being blown over the back of the rig. Then every so often you need to drain it out responsibly and discard it with your other drain oil. Most of the links for these I have found have been for marine applications. I am sure they don't want all that oil in the bilge water. I am making mine from a piece of 3" PVC, capped on the ends with two barbed hose inlets and one petcock on the bottom. I will post a pic when I am done, assuming that it works!
RJ Long (Rjlong)
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Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 4:32 pm:   

John, Roger & others -

OK, I found the thread, it's over on the BCM BBS. Here's the link, scroll down the page to see the pic's air box drain catch tank Jack built:

http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=11842.0

FWIW & HTH. . .

:-)
John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 8:29 pm:   

Nice, thanks RJ. That is kinda what I had in mind only mines not so good lol. I guess the breather cap is essential, so I will have to revamp my plans.
Bob MacIsaac (Wildbob24)
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Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 12:31 am:   

Roger,

To answer your question, the air box is the space in the vee of your engine below the blower. It is where the cylinders get the air necessary to support combustion. It tends to collect oil and combustion by-products which need to be drained.

There is a drain on each side of your engine. These drains, on older buses, were originally open to the atmosphere. The installation of a catch can is highly recommended.
Roger Baughman (Roger)
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Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 12:50 am:   

Thanks Guys, and RJ for the link, Now I understand what you all were talking about with the air box drains. I have those two tubs too and they are very messey. Now I know how to fix them. Roger

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