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Jason Simons (Bigblock01)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 11:26 am:   

I'm looking for new stablizer bars for the rear of my 58 4104. Can these be bought new of just put new bushings? Also look for a radiator or best place to recore mine.
John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 11:46 am:   

Luke at US Coach provided me with a radiator, had it recored and shipped it.(Shipping was only 50 bucks).
Glenn Williams (Glenn)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 11:56 am:   

You should be able to put new bushings in. I haven't heard of the rods actually going bad themselves, but nothing is impossible. It is a real big job, especially for the upper rods on the rear axle. Do a search through the archives here and I know there are postings and pictures there. Good luck!

Glenn
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 5:46 pm:   

You replace the bushings, that are low in cost.They also make polyurethane ones that some like, although some have reported slightly harsher ride; some say it is same or better. Even stock type should outlast the time you have the coach. Also, Luke replaces these all the time. He will go over the under carriage and report problems for you that you may not realize is a problem. When you remove one of those bars, you need to keep the suspension cradle from shifting when you remove a locating rod. A come-a-long would be helpful, plus jacks, blocking, big tools, etc. also coach body should be supported while working on them. Make it easier to shift the rods and suspension cradle around.
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 10:00 pm:   

I presume you are talking about the radius rods?

This is a tremendous job and requires a lot of muscle.

I don't see how the type of bushing can affect the ride because they control fore and aft movement, not up and down.

If you do install new bushings be sure the nuts are safetied, those nuts sure like to come loose. I lost count of the number I've found loose and sometimes the whole bolt and nut was missing.The original nuts were drilled for safety wire but many replacements are not. A bent washer is good for those.
Jason Simons (Bigblock01)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:22 am:   

Thanks for the info. The rods do look fine the bushings a in need. I will be shure to lock the nut some how. If not mistaken there are 2 rods on the bottom behind the wheels and 1 to the top of the rearend housing. I just replaced an airbag on the left rear I noticed the the bus seems to be running alittle to the right hope that new bushings line it backup.
Len Silva (Lsilva)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 3:27 pm:   

Rear bushings can make a big difference in steering and handling.

The poly bushings are two piece and much easier to install than the one piece rubber bushings.

I have heard people complain about the ride after installing poly bushings. In fact, I think I remember one story of someone who replaced nearly new poly with rubber because of it. Maybe way back in the archives.

If you use rubber bushings, I remember something in the book about using no lubricant of any kind, not even water.

Len
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 5:02 pm:   

There is a tool(homemade) shown in the shop manual, at least in the 4905 book,to install the bushings in the eyes. Makes it real easy to insert them.

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