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| Peter River (Whitebus)
Registered Member Username: Whitebus Post Number: 167 Registered: 4-2009 Posted From: 208.54.14.12  Rating: N/A |
classic youtube video. I am sure many of us had to deal with something similar, though not as severe. becareful out there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDTLo-nDsUQ | ||
| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 460 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 74.244.14.221  Rating: N/A |
Even more amazing but not surprising.....the other motorist involved didn't stop. That said the bus driver may have been carrying too much speed down that grade in the rain | ||
| George M. Todd (George_mc6)
Registered Member Username: George_mc6 Post Number: 928 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 99.39.13.151 Rating: N/A |
This was posted here at least a year ago, and several of us noted then that if the bus driver had started slowing down when the car pulled out, instead of flashing his lights, and not doing anything else until it was too late, nothing serious would have happened! G | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 981 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.209.95.67 Rating: N/A |
Good Grief!!!!!!!!Why would one place this, particularly in light of your observation, on the bus driver?? Since when does the on ramp have the "right of way"? Maybe I missed something in the video? Judge not, that you may too be judged. FWIW RCB | ||
| George M. Todd (George_mc6)
Registered Member Username: George_mc6 Post Number: 929 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 99.39.13.151 Rating: N/A |
Chuck, Motor vehicle law places ultimate responsibility on the driver with THE LAST CLEAR CHANCE TO AVOID THE ACCIDENT. Last year's post was clearer, and shows the bus driver flashing his lights at the car as soon as it starts to pull out. Unfortunately, the idiot bus driver expected the idiot car driver to rectifiy his/her mistake, and gun it on a wet road. Had the bus driver just gotten gently on the brakes, and gone a little to the left to start with, we wouldn't be having this discussion. G | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 982 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.209.95.67 Rating: N/A |
Touche, G.... ...who is to determine the "last clear chance to avoid the accident"? I really don't recall the discussion a year ago, but I must say you are probably very correct. ...albeit, the simple fact that the driver of the auto, who was clearly "touched" by the coach, must have had a pretty guilty feeling as evidenced by the fact they did not stop after their "recovery". Perspective is a peculiar thing, eh what? Nice to see you "back", George. Happy thanksgiving to you and everyone! RCB | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
Registered Member Username: Sean Post Number: 979 Registered: 1-2003 Posted From: 173.106.107.152  Rating: N/A |
We actually discussed this four and a half years ago: http://www.busnut.com/bbs/messages/233/10197.html (caution: Original video link at the top of that thread is now NSFW, and no longer goes directly to the correct video) At that time, I hunted around until I found the details:
-Sean http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com (Message edited by Sean on November 26, 2009) | ||
| macgyver (91flyer)
Registered Member Username: 91flyer Post Number: 562 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 74.193.188.165  Rating: N/A |
Personally... Had I been the bus driver... I'd have plowed right into the back of the car in that situation. Better to end the life of the idiot and chance my own than to risk the lives of the passengers I'm responsible for by ditching it and letting the idiot that pulled out in front of me get away unscathed... But yeah, the bus driver should have begun moving over long beforehand, he had plenty of time to react and simply didn't... I've seen this video before, but with a pretty lengthy description of what actually happened... The bus driver drove carelessly, expecting the driver of the car to get out of the way first... If the bus driver survived (doubtful, I think that was his body flying through the windshield on impact)... I'm sure it was a lesson learned. We, as private owners of these coaches, need to heed the mistakes of others and learn from them before we too experience the same fates! Granted, my "new" coach isn't as big and heavy as the 4905 I had, it's still a big machine... I drive slower than the machine is capable of in most cases and I'm *ALWAYS* on the lookout for escape routes for just such an occasion. Sometimes, escape simply isn't possible though... In those cases, I think it's better to plow into the rear end of the idiot than to flip the bus, but that's just my personal opinion... -Mac | ||
| clint hunter (Truthhunter)
Registered Member Username: Truthhunter Post Number: 549 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 24.129.237.52  Rating: N/A |
...perhaps the bus driver meant to hit the disintegrator beam, but hit the headlight switch by accident ? | ||
| David Guglielmetti (Daveg)
Registered Member Username: Daveg Post Number: 120 Registered: 2-2009 Posted From: 69.106.223.122  Rating: |
Cool, I want one of those disintegrator beams! Can you post the website for the vendor? (Message edited by DaveG on November 26, 2009) | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 93 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
I HIT the old link, wowowowowowowoow | ||
| John MC9 (John_mc9)
Registered Member Username: John_mc9 Post Number: 1018 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 74.162.82.114  Rating: N/A |
On a happier note: - - - - - - - - - - - - By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: November 28, 2009 Filed at 12:36 a.m. ET GUATEMALA CITY (AP) -- Police say a mob in Guatemala burned to death two men and a woman suspected of killing a local bus driver. Photos show the half-burned bodies lying in a street in the western city of Solola. Police say the three were taken into custody for allegedly shooting to death the bus driver and wounding 2 passengers. National Police spokesman Donald Gonzalez says about 400 residents later showed up at the police station, set fire to three patrol cars and forced the outnumbered officers to turn over the suspects. The mob then beat the trio unconscious, doused them with gasoline and set them alight on Friday. Mobs have attacked several suspects in Guatemala recently amid a wave of violent crime. - - - - - - - - - - - - -  It was the only right thing to do! | ||
| Dale Waller (Happycampersrus)
Registered Member Username: Happycampersrus Post Number: 335 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 166.223.66.16 Rating: N/A |
Bout time someone took up for the lowly bus drivers! LOL I sure do miss the pillapeens! | ||
| John Lacey (Junkman42)
Registered Member Username: Junkman42 Post Number: 105 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 69.19.14.34  Rating: N/A |
Dale, just curious if You remember purry bubbles? Perhaps before Your time? Regards, John | ||
| Dale Waller (Happycampersrus)
Registered Member Username: Happycampersrus Post Number: 336 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 166.223.130.58 Rating: N/A |
Must be before my time. LOL. I was at Subic Bay from 88 to 91 | ||
| John Lacey (Junkman42)
Registered Member Username: Junkman42 Post Number: 106 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 69.19.14.42 Rating: N/A |
Dale, I would guess that having been at clark in the early part of 1961 would qualify Me for the old far---ts club. It seems like yesterday but I guess time has passed by. The song pearly bubbles was butchered by every band in the PI, OT I guess. Regards, john | ||
| Dale Waller (Happycampersrus)
Registered Member Username: Happycampersrus Post Number: 338 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 166.223.130.58 Rating: N/A |
Oh, I got ya now!! Frwee birwd, I chot the chariff and many more hits butchered. Alot of San Miguel and Red Horse and they almost sounded good. LOL. | ||
| Ray Drummond (Ray_d)
Registered Member Username: Ray_d Post Number: 64 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 68.126.134.114  Rating: N/A |
I was at Clark from 1970 to early 73, I was in the Mob, but I always heard it was the Pink Pony, not Red Horse. Sorry, could'nt resist, my best buddy was in Red Horse and I can still piss him off with the Pink Poney thing. Ray D |
