| Author | Message | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 83 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
any idea where it is? | ||
| Tom Christman (Tchristman)
Registered Member Username: Tchristman Post Number: 148 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.218.33.156 Rating: N/A |
On my V drive transit, the regulator is mounted on the inside of the coach at the rear right bottom. I also changed the big black box transistorized regulator for a digital-that is about the size of a pack of cigs. Good Luck, TomC | ||
| J.L.Vickers (Roadrunnertex)
Registered Member Username: Roadrunnertex Post Number: 68 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 74.5.97.188 Rating: N/A |
Per the PD4106 maintenance manual, Voltage regulator is located in battery compartment at left side of vehicle. On some early PD4106's the regulator is located in the baggage compartment at the left side of vehicle. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 86 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
i will look again but i dont think it's in the battery compartmant. also having trouble with house batts.... 2 were bone dry and 2 were showing low cell, any good deals on battries out there? | ||
| Larry D Baker (Lbaker4106)
Registered Member Username: Lbaker4106 Post Number: 91 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 68.34.28.108 Rating: N/A |
On my 4106-038 regulator is in door just in front of the battery compartment | ||
| Dan West (Utahclaimjumper)
Registered Member Username: Utahclaimjumper Post Number: 212 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 208.66.38.60 Rating: N/A |
My 62 has it in the first bay in front of the left rear wheel well, aft wall.>>>Dan | ||
| Denis (Denis)
Registered Member Username: Denis Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 24.164.119.177 Rating: N/A |
How bad is it if the regulator is in the engine compartment, right side above the transmission / air compressor? | ||
| Ed Mikesell (Rustytoy)
Registered Member Username: Rustytoy Post Number: 12 Registered: 2-2009 Posted From: 75.88.53.112 Rating: N/A |
on my 4106 the regulator is located in the baggage compartment nearest the battery compartment. It is actually bolted to the rear wall of the battery compt.but in the luggage bay. Hope that makes sense. | ||
| Jim Rink (Fakeguy)
Registered Member Username: Fakeguy Post Number: 158 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 96.11.208.166  Rating: N/A |
Tom. My PD4106 same as Rustytoy "on my 4106 the regulator is located in the baggage compartment nearest the battery compartment." I had a pic of it at one time. IF I can find the pic, will email to you. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1010 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.162.13  Rating: N/A |
You will have to install some batteries to find out weather the V reg is bad , or just the batts died of old age or lack of service. For folks that will not be boondocking the usual 8D work fine. For boondockers the split system , start batts for the engine and REAL deep cycle (golf cart or similar) for the house is the usual. DO NOT use starts for overnight , tho lots of folks get by with only deep cycles as start batts. FF | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 88 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
i have 2 new 8d? for starts and 6 trojan 150 for the house. i had 2 batts that were very low on water and one that was smoking as it was so low. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 90 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
the only box i have found was a box marked king controls with a cable attched to an engine pully/ governer or something like that. but king controls is a satelitte company and has the address of the satellite company on it? any ideas? | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1769 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
That should be the King cruise control unit. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 91 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
are they made by the same company? they both have the same address and name? strange to have a satellite company and a cruise control company together? | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1771 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157 Rating: N/A |
Go to kings web site; they make both. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 95 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
i finally found the regulator. how do i check it to be sure it is working? i did sand all the contacts but havent started the bus up as i want to conserve fuel and not have to buy it in canada. also how much is a rebuild generator if i need one? | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1015 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.38 Rating: N/A |
how do i check it to be sure it is working? With OK batteries measure the volts with the engine OFF. Should be 12.7 or so . Start the engine and the volts should rise to 13.8 to 14.4 . If thats what you see everything is fine. DO not "sand the points " most are transistor units. GET Da Book, you can NOT contemplate the maint requirements , PM and repair sequences with out it. FF | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 99 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
these were the original units with points looks like they had never been changed. i found them in the passenger side electrical compartment.one seemed to kick over the starter and the other seemed to be the regulator. | ||
| don goldsmith (Bottomacher)
Registered Member Username: Bottomacher Post Number: 267 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 72.152.137.154 Rating: N/A |
That is a relay, not the regulator if I remember correctly. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 100 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
one is the relay and one is the regulator??? i hope | ||
| Dale Waller (Happycampersrus)
Registered Member Username: Happycampersrus Post Number: 339 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 166.225.130.74 Rating: N/A |
I believe you are looking for a box that looks simular to this. That will be the voltage regulator.  | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 101 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
nope mine looks like this | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 102 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
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| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 289 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 64.12.116.203 Rating: N/A |
That looks like an old Delco. The fact that you are cooking the water out means the generator is charging. When you mix battery sizes and charge them together the smaller batterys will always get cooked before the large ones top off. Check to be certain the field wire is not shorted to ground. I think you are asking the regulator to do things it was never designed to do. If you charged the different batterys seperately, you might make it work. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1778 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157 Rating: N/A |
I have one identical to that on my 4104; it is a combination warning buzzer and rectifier. The rectifier is on the right under the cover and is blue. You might want to remove that cover and check it. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 103 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 24.226.54.174 Rating: N/A |
not cooking the bus batts but cooking the house batts 6 trojan 150's | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1016 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.34 Rating: N/A |
To properly charde the batts the V reg must "see " them. Some folks just connect the VR to the house , as any overcharge is readily handeled by start batts. FF | ||
| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 293 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 205.188.116.203 Rating: N/A |
I tried using different capacity batteries together and had the same issues, cooking the smaller units. I think Freds way will take care of cooking the smaller batterys, maybe that is all you need to do. The 8D's should be happy with whats left over. I never considered that possibility, I ain't no electrician. 8D's come in Deep Cycle and that is how I found what works for me. I use all matched 8D's and they are not seperated for house use, I just tied them all togather and now I have forgotten about them except for maintence. When I boondock I throw them a couple hours a day at 60 amps from the gen set with my charger and when I'm ready to move on the alternator takes over. When I return to the yard, I check the voltage after it sits a few hours. If they are not above 12.50 I give them a day on the 60 amp charger and forget them until next time. A friend bought a nice 2/40/200 amp charger from Sears a couple weeks ago.($70 steal) I have been thinking about throwing away the handle and wheels and bolting one into my water bay and just direct wiring it for easy charging. Thats basically what I do anyway, but I use my shop charger and it needs to be in the shop. 4 or 5 8D's is a lot of power to me and having them matched takes all of the issues away in my bus. I am satisfied with this setup and have not found a flaw with it yet, but every bus is a little different. I never tried it, but I was going to put in a switch when I had mismatched battery sets to isolate each set for charging. I could drive an hour and charge the start batterys and then charge the house next. |