| Author | Message | ||
| Larry Nelson (Larryn4106)
Registered Member Username: Larryn4106 Post Number: 42 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 173.30.230.77 Rating: N/A |
I always have oil, from the tranny I suppose, pooling on top of the spicer oil filter. In the aircraft biz, we put a bit of sealer on the rubber gasket of oil filters, and I am might try something like that here. Any ideas why this is leaking? | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1018 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.30  Rating: N/A |
Might be hard for the oil to leak out and climb on top of the filter. Wipe it really clean and keep looking. Engine oil is BLACK , tranny oil is clean. FF | ||
| L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
Registered Member Username: Jamo Post Number: 114 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 24.59.114.207  Rating: N/A |
Sorry Larry, but I think it's funny when I think of me trying to find out where oil is coming from on my 4104. I have pools anywhere and everywhere that DD decided to cast a "pond". My concern for now is to be sure that the holes the oil goes in keep ahead of the holes where it comes out. Actually, mine isn't really all that bad for leaks... | ||
| Larry Nelson (Larryn4106)
Registered Member Username: Larryn4106 Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 173.30.230.77 Rating: N/A |
This is clean oil. It is clearly a filter/seal issue and I am worried that it is the "machined" surface that the oil filter rests against, since I have had this with each filter change. FF, I am not sure what you mean. The filter is "hanging" so any failure in the rubber gasket/mated surface would merely allow the oil to pool right there.....on the IOP of the filter itself. Yes, it is CLEAN oil. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1793 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
remove it and inspect the sealimg surface. If it is ok, clean the area with spray brake clean. spray the area with foot powder, let dry and then take it for a short run. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1043 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 208.54.196.251  Rating: N/A |
Jamo, same story here except mine is plenty bad for leaks. I leave no spot unmarked!! | ||
| L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
Registered Member Username: Jamo Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 24.59.114.207 Rating: N/A |
Yeah, Gus... Want to split a hundred pound bag of baby powder? At least we can say that we aren't leaking oil when we leave our mark...just spilled some gravy... | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1021 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.26 Rating: N/A |
When I was looking to lower my oil leak bill, Luke at US Coach had the best (but difficult ) advice. CLEAN EVERYTHING !! Well 4 or 5 spray cans of Gunk and a dead spot on the lawn that may take decades to grow grass I was able to clean most of the seams, sealing surfaces that could leak. The rest will wait till I get another 20 cans of Gunk, and someplace else to work. When its CLEAN! a quite short ride , just enough to get to normal water temp will thin the oil enough that its time for a wipe rag and a bright flashlight. Good Hunting, FF | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1016 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.210.124.231 Rating: N/A |
That's good advice, Fred. And, difficult and dirty, but will pay dividends in a number of ways. I have power washed my coach from end to end...many times. Most of the grease and grit is gone, in some places...others not. But as I want (need) to work in an area, I power wash it again, then begin the dirty process of "gunking". I find that gives me a reprieve from a long drawn out and nasty job...and accomplishes what is required for the present task... a power wash underneath every so often helps keep it in decent shape. Still have many "unclean" areas underneath...but when I look at where we started, we've come a long way. I'm considering investing in a steam cleaning, but haven't done it to this point. Too many other things to spend $$$ on. FWIW RCB | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1046 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 208.54.196.163 Rating: N/A |
Unfortunately I have to travel a dirt road 2 miles in and out to my farm plus another one mile dirt road to a frequent destination. Keeping the rear free of dirt and oil is an overwhelming job but I keep at it! I have a big supply of rags, nitrile gloves and Gunk. My pressure washer is a big help also. I don't worry much about the underside, I consider it anti-corrosion fluid!! | ||
| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 294 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 205.188.116.203 Rating: N/A |
Larry, Make sure you have the right filter. I don't see anything wrong with the sealer idea either. You can put an engine filter on an Allison, but they will blow out. Something like that going on here? I have cracked a few spin on filter housings over the years, might give that some thought too. Oil lines die too, if they are present, make sure they are plyable. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1024 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.9.59 Rating: N/A |
You can put an engine filter on an Allison, but they will blow out. Something like that going on here? The engine may see 50+ psi on the oil gallery , but the tranny should be far less. WRONG filter is one possibility.Overtightened another. FF | ||
| Brandon Merritt (Brando4905)
Registered Member Username: Brando4905 Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2009 Posted From: 173.69.74.146  Rating: N/A |
I had this problem with my tranny filter, oil on the top. Turned out to be one of the lines going to the filter housing needed tightening. The line seemed tight, but I got it just a little turn tighter and the leak stopped. Brandon | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1800 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157 Rating: N/A |
Don't rule out porosity of the transmission case. Clean, spray and take shore trip OR pull axle shafts, run it in high gear while sitting still and watch for the leak source. A little more bother, but you'll find it this way. Wear ear protection by the way. |