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Peter River (Whitebus)
Registered Member Username: Whitebus
Post Number: 179 Registered: 4-2009 Posted From: 24.234.166.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 5:37 pm: | |
am I the only one who's scared of taking off in their buses to god knows where, after reading the problems I read about daily on this board? keep in mind I drove my bus 2400 miles across US after buying it on ebay, now I wonder about 100 miles trips out of town... I guess ignorance was bliss. (Message edited by whitebus on December 05, 2009) |
Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
Registered Member Username: Zubzub
Post Number: 134 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 70.52.28.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 7:22 pm: | |
the fear is part of the fun maybe? I have been driving old rigs of one type or another for 25 years....always travel with tools and some work clothes, always make it home without a tow. Couple of times had to do my points 3 times in 100 miles (condenser was shot), once I drove a gas engine 500 miles with a working charge system (push started and used no electrical til dark, limped in on the last dregs of headlights. Makes me laugh now (I would just buy another battery now and run the first into the ground then hook up the next). ANyhow for me it's part of the fun. BTW you have a very modern bus by most of the standards here, pretty sure you could worry for 10-20 years before it pays off. |
Dallas Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas
Post Number: 15 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 75.88.5.155
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 9:46 pm: | |
"Couple of times had to do my points 3 times in 100 miles (condenser was shot)" When that would happen to us in our old logging equipment, we'd pull the license plates, slide a piece of paper between them and hook a wire to each plate. Use them all day everyday for a week until we went home for the weekend, then bring back a new set of points, rotor and condenser. |
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc
Post Number: 1041 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 208.54.196.251
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:11 pm: | |
Peter, I drove my 4104 800 miles just after buying it, never having driven a bus before then. In a couple of months I drove it another 5000 mile trip in which I had at least three "events" in which I was very lucky to be at or near maintenance shops. In a couple more months I drove it on another 6-7000 mile trip but had fewer "events". Since then I have made at least ten trips about the same distances and, so far, have not had any major events. My bus is a '54 so you have a much better chance of getting mechanical help and parts. I also have peace of mind in knowing that I always have Good Sam Road Service backing me up although I've never had to use it. The bottom line is always look to each trip as an adventure because it usually is!! Also, don't put yourself into a bind time-wise so you are pushed, always give yourself plenty of time for "events". So, relax, keep alert for strange sounds, and go have fun. I used to do all my long distance traveling by private airplane but there is nothing like traveling long distances in a bus and having your lodging available at all times. |
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb
Post Number: 1013 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.209.153.187
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:14 pm: | |
So, Peter...what's so different in this "hobby", "pursuit", "endeavor", "pre-occupation", "enjoyment", or what ever tag one might attach to every day, real,life? My guess is, not much; take into consideration the recent recall of Toyotas, Lexus, etc....so, what's new? Good grief.... why in the world would one think ( or not, as case may be) that the previous owner, no matter who that might be...would USUALLY get out of that particular "thing"? Then, how 'bout autos out of warranty? Seems to me they are all a roll of the dice. And so are totally NEW vehicles. BTDT... Relax, enjoy the "trip(s)". It's all apart of the "experience".....and....budget for it! FWIW RCB (Message edited by Chuckllb on December 05, 2009) |
Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
Registered Member Username: Dreamscape
Post Number: 604 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 64.40.215.145
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:14 pm: | |
If you worry you can't have any fun. Get out there and enjoy the fruits of your labor and don't sweat the small stuff! If I worried about what could break I would be ready for the nut house, Oh wait we alreay are there! Hee Hee I broke down in Palm Springs on my way to Texas, spent four days there, met the nicest folk who have become lifetime friends. It was worth it! |
Ray Drummond (Ray_d)
Registered Member Username: Ray_d
Post Number: 65 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 68.126.134.114
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:30 pm: | |
Getting on in years, huh, well so am I. I don't know why we start to worry more about that stuff as we get older. Party when we were young and brag for a week, party when we are old and we don't want to bring it up, like we did something wrong. Well, I decided to ignore that feeling, if I break down, hold people up, get the horn button on me, finger salutes, I wave and smile at them and go about my life. The hell with them, and then lo and behold someone stops to help. It doesn't get any better than that, it's a great day. So relax, get one of those drinks with an umbrella in it & don't worry so damned much. It's you're turn to relax. Ray D P.S. That advice just cost you a drink with an umbrella in it (Message edited by Ray_D on December 05, 2009) |
Laryn Christley (Barn_owl)
Registered Member Username: Barn_owl
Post Number: 627 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 72.66.179.55
Rating: Votes: 2 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 2:43 am: | |
After sitting ten years in the PO driveway my father drove mine from CA to VA without a problem back in '06. This spring I did 8000+ miles over five weeks coast to coast. If I knew about these boards and read them before I bought my bus I probably would have never done it. It is scary to head out in a machine that is older than I am after reading about all of the problems others have. And often their buses are much newer. But short of a complete mechanical failure I feel that I can nurse my machine along if I have to. After a few miles down the road my confidence soars and I'm good. My limiting factor becomes how much time I can take off of work and how much fuel money I have. Next trip is in the works. |
Tom Christman (Tchristman)
Registered Member Username: Tchristman
Post Number: 153 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.218.33.156
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 2:55 am: | |
That's why you should have $20,000.00 in credit card available credit when driving the bus-so not to get stuck somewhere without money. Good luck, TomC |
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred
Post Number: 1019 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.9.74
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 8:28 am: | |
PM , is the simple answer.Preventive Maint. A bus is really reliable , all one has to do it is restore the machinery to road worthy. DO ALL the items on the usual list or chart , and away you go. It is wise to figure NOTHING was done by the PO so if doing wheel bearings , have the required oil seals in hand. Same for all the rest. With most coaches some parts should be carried aboard. A rebuilt air compressor with the gov and a working starter, and a brake can and slack adjuster, would top my list. Used , working is just fine , or do what offshore sailors do, install a rebuilt unit and keep the old working part as the spare. FF |
David Evans (Dmd)
Registered Member Username: Dmd
Post Number: 401 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 173.77.206.109
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 8:54 am: | |
Ten years ago i would just unplug, throw everything on the bed or in the sink and GO! Now i start to think about stuff. As Ray said, getting older i guess. I am nervous/exited at the begining listening for new noises, imagining different rumbles. As the miles pass we start to relax and enjoy the best part of bussin. Driving! Over the years i have had some breakdowns, last time to Jacks we lost the altenator and i spent most of the rally renting a car and driving back and forth to Tampa. Had a wheel bearing start to fail that aborted a trip to the keys. Several other minor things here and there but the bus always got us home. I think you need to keep the big wheels rolling. Sitting is hard on these old girls. Once a month or more if you can, just enough to get the juices going. You will feel better too. Ever sit to long and feel a little stiff getting up? Ha Ha! Like Barn Owl trips now are planned with time off and diesel dinero. We are planning on getting to Arcadia but it will probably be without the rear bedroom, with a temp floor and on a wing and a prayer. My dad was a naval pilot and was always saying that! Another favorite of his was "No guts no Air Medal" Mine is " ATTITUDE! (the difference between ordeal and adventure!)" |
Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
Registered Member Username: Zubzub
Post Number: 137 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 70.52.28.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 9:15 am: | |
"When that would happen to us in our old logging equipment, we'd pull the license plates, slide a piece of paper between them and hook a wire to each plate. Use them all day everyday for a week until we went home for the weekend, then bring back a new set of points, rotor and condenser." WOw...who knew? I have been pretty much self taught in this stuff, never came across that in a book. Makes sense, maybe it's time for Dallas to write a book with all the tricks he's learnt over the years. |
Alex (Doctor_al)
Registered Member Username: Doctor_al
Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 173.202.4.29
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 9:28 am: | |
I would guess that for every breakdown that shows up on the board here, there are hundreds if not thousands of uneventful bus trips that are not reported. relax, and enjoy your bus. that's why we got them... right? JMHO |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad
Post Number: 1173 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 74.4.55.77
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 9:51 am: | |
I think FastFred said it best. Preventive maintenance is one of the most important factors. It is much easier to repair or replace something in your own driveway/shop than on the road. Knock on wood, we have driven our 73" MC-8 50,000 miles and only had one problem that required us to stop on the road. That was a failed solenoid. A quick fix was to remove the engine stop piston on top of the governor, jump the starter and we were back on the road in about 5 minutes. During preventative maintenance at our place we have replaced all coolant hoses & clamps, brake linings, suspension bushings, transmission cooler and power steering hoses. During PM inspection, if a component looks questionable, we replace it. This eliminates much of the "What if" worry while driving. Just human nature i guess, but we all tend to report back with problems, but rarely report back with trouble free trips. Jack (Message edited by JackConrad on December 06, 2009) |
Glenn Williams (Glenn)
Registered Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 239 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 216.163.57.91
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 10:45 am: | |
Fred and Jack are absolutely right. Maintenance and replacement of items that are considered "disposable" will take care of almost any problem that will catch you. I was nervous the first year of having my MCI 7, because I knew the air bags were very checked. After replacing them all, no worries! I've also done wheel seals, bearings where needed, brake work, etc. Now, I just know I can basically check fluids, fire it up, do a walk around and go. I love it! Glenn |
Jim Shepherd (Rv_safetyman)
Registered Member Username: Rv_safetyman
Post Number: 292 Registered: 1-2004 Posted From: 67.142.130.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 11:08 am: | |
Wow, where do I start. First of all, I fully agree that PM is a major factor. I don't think age is that much of a factor. I do all of my own work, and I always have that doubt in my mind. In 1987 I finished my '56 Chevy (frame off with lots of "upgrades") and with almost no test miles, our family (wife and three daughters) headed out to Illinois for a big car event. We had a couple of problems, but we had a good trip. I worried every mile and heard things that probably weren't there. Problem with a bus is that many repairs are major $$. As Tom said you should have a big CC available (unfortunately we don't). As most of you know, we are replacing our Series 60 because of a major engine problem. We made it home just fine, but the dollars are HUGE. I will really be nervous when we head out with the replacement engine. If something happens to it, we have no funds to repair. Because of the business (and also for fun), I follow several of the S&S RV related Yahoo groups. Those folks with very expensive, rather new motorhomes have problems too. Some of them have big problems. Many are covered by warranties. However when Monaco folded, Navistar did not not honor any warranties. Some companies like Alfa just folded and their customers are in the lurch. So, with all that doom and gloom, why do we do it? Well, we were forced to travel to trade shows like "normal" folks (car/truck and use hotels). Hugely expensive! Very inconvenient. We really miss our bus and look so forward to having it back. Someone made the observation that the dirt in our buses is our own dirt - think about it! I guess all of this rambling leads to the thought that we all made the commitment and our buses have no value on the resale market, so we might just as well go out and have fun. That is where age comes in. Many of us have a few years under our belt and we need to get out there and use our big toys before it is too late. It's an illness. Jim |
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred
Post Number: 1025 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.9.59
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 7:24 am: | |
"Many of us have a few years under our belt and we need to get out there and use our big toys before it is too late." No question bus campers are a HOBBY and whatever you put into the beast will have to be used up as pleasure and will probably not be returned when sold . This means that wannabees have good prospects for bargain hunting. Beware , IF you find a coach with out Maint records , fuel log and PM log , it may be really expensive to travel . The coaches are all done "MY WAY" , each individual selects the cruising concepts he likes and creates a solution to his individual DESIREMENTS. If you want a coach to boondock 4 months on public land OR to go from campsite to campsite find one where the current owner had the SAME goals. Reconverting is a huge waste of time and currency. Diesel noisemakers , 4000lbs of batteries 300G water & waste tanks and all the rest are not needed for camping at sites, and are hard too install . IF you find a camper where the owner had the same concept of camping as you do , you will be miles ahead. FF |
macgyver (91flyer)
Registered Member Username: 91flyer
Post Number: 568 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 74.193.188.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 10:39 am: | |
Well.. I think I can speak up on the "insanity" part of our individual quests... After all, I'm the one that keeps buying buses sight unseen and somehow managing to drive them over 1000 miles back home. Take my latest adventure... a 1953 Flxible Visicoach... She hadn't run or moved in 16 years. I went up there, got her going and drove her back about 1100 miles. Yeah, she's got a lot of things that need fixing... Like... Oh, Everything. lol... But, she made it. A little knowledge and some common sense really go a LONG way in this hobby... As does having people like us that you can contact when things go awry. As has been said... Stop worrying so much. Enjoy the ride and relax. When something goes wrong, deal with it then... No real sense in worrying about the potentials before-hand... If you do, you'll never drive your bus (or any other vehicle, for that matter) again. -Mac |
John Lacey (Junkman42)
Registered Member Username: Junkman42
Post Number: 107 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 66.82.162.18
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 12:25 pm: | |
I once on a regular basis piloted aircraft built before I was born. The only time I every had a serious problem was a brand new aircraft with brand new engines. Nothing like caging a brand new ,very expensive engine and almost not making it back to the airport. Point is at almost 70 years of age I now worry about leaving the house in a nice, well maintained 37 year old bus. It never bothered me before as a young military person to go exploring in countries where You could be killed for a dime! Must be a function of age, I hope to make it to Arcadia and if the old girl breaks I will certainly call on some busnuts to help! I hope I can learn to quit worring about things I have no control over. Remember do not worry be happy. Regards John |
John & Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
Registered Member Username: Bigrigger
Post Number: 312 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 24.183.21.246
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 2:19 pm: | |
Well said Junkman. |
marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer
Post Number: 708 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.153.91
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 4:29 pm: | |
Preventive maint,is what it says,Preventive. when one of our ???Year old coaches decide to stop or break, That is what it does and there they sit. So saying all that, Junkman said it all " DON"T WORRY BE HAPPY" I believe he heard that on a song?? LOL Gomer |
Bill Keller (Busnut104)
Registered Member Username: Busnut104
Post Number: 22 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 98.21.103.125
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 6:49 pm: | |
Here is one. about 6 years ago I was going to Jacks party in Fl. I had just had the 740 transmission total rebuilt at a Allison garage, all the updates. But I got cold feet, a long trip and I had done so much to the coach with out a real test run. So we did not go. Well in the spring I had the bus out for a drive and hardly made it home. To make a long story short, I dropped the pan and it was filled with metal shavings. The garage did make it right after I had to remove and install. Problem they installed the new style of value body and there had to be a hole drilled to get the oil some place and they forgot this. So if I would have made the trip, I would have been setting along the road down around Balt. or washington in the middle of the winter. This made me a little gun shy. |
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb
Post Number: 1018 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 70.212.183.182
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 8:54 pm: | |
Bought mine "sight unseen" as well...on the recommend of another (a salesman for AZ Bus sales in Phoenix....hadn't seen him either...still haven't AND>>>he wouldn't accept a "commission")... eight years ago. One of the best things I have ever done as (POSITIVELY RIGHT, FRED) hobby... including flying! Over the years, I "learned" to purchase a new car every two years or so....while still in warranty... I sold the thing (most were private sales, not trades) because I hate nickle and dime repairs....always have. "Used-preowned" have always been a real pain for me. My wife just purchased a 2005 Izuzu...against my advice...guess what....yep, you guessed it!!! But, as for the coach,,,knowing what life has dealt over the years, I decided to go with it!. Sure, spent a few bucks here and there on repairs...but I had the complete maintenance record of the PO, who, was the original owner. (I received the original Manufacturer's Statement of Origin) Yes, I have credit cards with (I hope) enuf $$$$ to overcome most anything on the road, BUT, I do not count on that. I am on SS...wife also. If I get to the point I can't do it, LORD willing,(Proverbs 3:5&6) hopefully we will be able to bail out! (Don't worry Be HAPPY!!!) We love this "HOBBY" and we approach it with full respect for what "might be". Que Sera Sera! RCB |
marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer
Post Number: 710 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.153.91
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 9:15 pm: | |
Psalms 23 That says it all He is with us ALL THE TIME. |
David Dulmage (Daved)
Registered Member Username: Daved
Post Number: 267 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 125.208.135.73
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 9:48 pm: | |
I can no longer do the heavy work due to the injuries received a year ago when an agressive driver couldn't wait at the scene of a rollover accident involving a downed utility pole and guy wires. (I wasn't involved but stopped to make sure everyone was okay). Things can change so fast. It's a good idea to carry a credit card with lots of overhead in case of an unforseen breakdown. To be frank, becasue of my physical limitations, I am more nervous now about beakdowns. We only travelled a few hundred miles this season. DaveD |
John (John_t)
Registered Member Username: John_t
Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 66.244.97.31
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:33 am: | |
I recall yearssssssss ago having problems on the road but that was BEFORE I had as much mechanical experience and I didnt have the money to do all the necessary repairs. HOWEVER I havent had road problems since (realize it can happen anytime of course) but thats due to METICULOUS PREVENTIVE AND REGULAR MAINTANANCE. I always install NEW belts, hoses, batteries, brakes as thats not all that expensive and is the cause of many road failures. I always carry spare parts such as Ignition Module,,,,,,Ignition Coil,,,,,,,,Cap and Rotor,,,,,,Starter Motor,,,,,,,as that can usually get one running. Of course, good tires AT MAX LOAD PSI,,,,Sta Bil in the Fuel,,,,,,Change allllllll filters,,,,,,,,tranny and radiator flushed n cleaned n refilled..........large tranny cooler Then I have Good Sam emergency service JUST IN CASE All this just makes me rest easier when I head out.. I prefer to pull maintenace when Im home with my shop and all my tools and nice weather versus on the cold wet pavement grrrrrr Im still just a Bus Wannabee (Class C) but this holds true regardless of my RV Merry Christmas Yall Old John T in Indiana |
Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039
Post Number: 426 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 184.0.0.219
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 11:04 am: | |
Maybe we need a column posting the thousands of miles of travel we've all had without mishap. The incredible panoramic views from the windshield & side windows of a bus, high above the annoying concrete walls that prevent seeing your surroundings from a car. The safe & stable ride of these incredible vehicles. Drive a stick & staples MH, then get beck in a bus. Gee, the bus doesn't change lanes in a crosswind! Pulling off the road wherever we stop, even if we're in a 30 mile traffic jam, making a sandwich & a cup of joe & sitting or sleeping in air conditioned comfort and in our own bed! Bringing our pets with us without worry about them not being allowed in hotels or being too hot or cold in a parked car. Being able to travel to & gather with dozens to hundreds of like minded busnuts at rallys, etc. But remembering that these buses we buy have already gone unknown millions of miles,(Greyhounds & Trailways units didn't have odometers). Most of our buses were not well maintained at the end because their owners knew they were being sold. Then they sat outdoors, sometimes for decades before we dreamers came along & gave them CPR. Would we attempt to run a ship or aircraft as we do these vehicles after such neglect? (Gov't wouldn't allow it.) I think our old buses do darn well considering. |
John & Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
Registered Member Username: Bigrigger
Post Number: 313 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 24.183.21.246
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 12:32 pm: | |
Another good post, Thanks Jim |
Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona
Post Number: 195 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.211.65.97
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 2:18 pm: | |
You see new and Used by the side of the road and we have been over 50,000 miles in our 66 MC5A and only one bad on the side of the road yet most of the time it was great and I would trust the buss more then I would a New one with all the computers and gizmos on them!!!!!! |
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb
Post Number: 1020 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.210.2.185
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 2:58 pm: | |
Yep, Rob...Me too! RCB |
David Dulmage (Daved)
Registered Member Username: Daved
Post Number: 268 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 125.208.135.49
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 8:03 pm: | |
To be honest we have travelled more than 25,000 miles and have had only two breakdowns. We were able to get going on our own both times. One incident required an immediate visit to a bus garage for repairs, total cost about $125.00. The other involved a loss of prime in the fuel system, cause still unresolved. This occured right after start-up at low idle. Other issues have arisen but these have been taken care of off-season as part of ongoing maintenance. DaveD |
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred
Post Number: 1028 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.162.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 6:52 am: | |
"Over the years, I "learned" to purchase a new car every two years or so....while still in warranty... I sold the thing (most were private sales, not trades) because I hate nickle and dime repairs....always have. "Used-preowned" have always been a real pain for me." I use the opposite system. We find a "good" used car and do the required maint. Currently its a 1996 Buick Roadmonster Station wagon, the last classic body on frame unit. It has an option list as long as your arm, and we figure a new version of a similar car would be a $500 as month hit. OR $45,000 out the door. Every month were $500 bucks ahead , so when the air cond needs a $100 hit of gas , its a pleasure not a pain. Reliability IS a requirement , but again these vehicles have known weak points , so something like the water pump is replaced at 100,000 miles , rather than waiting for it to die. An LT1 Corvette engine & tranny make the driving as fun as anything. Our coaches are really robust , BUT, use , monthly will not only keep the repair list down , but it builds the knowledge that its a go anywhere right NOW vehicle. FF |
Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
Registered Member Username: Robsedona
Post Number: 196 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.211.7.145
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 7:04 am: | |
If this forum was about Walking down the street and you would hear all the things that happen with that would you Lock yourself in the house???? Every time we do anything something can happen I think they call it Life right? And here we are a family helping each other build, and fix and help each other out of a fix we may get into on the Road I for one am greatfull for seeing all the support we give each other and for hearing about you and yours everyone Thank you!!!!!!!!! We live and have Fun and Live Life to the Fullest! Good Luck on the First Day of the Rest Of Your Life! |
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks
Post Number: 111 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 7:17 am: | |
bus ownership is not for pussies! |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad
Post Number: 1176 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 74.4.55.77
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 8:08 am: | |
When we do our regular preventive maintenance, we look for what I call "STOPPERS". The things that, if they fail, you will have to stop right there. This includes hoses, belts, clamps, etc. If they look questionable at all, we replace them. Much easier to do that in our shop than along the road. So far, this has worked for us for 50,000 miles. Jack |
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks
Post Number: 112 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 8:39 am: | |
we just did over 1200 miles and the only problem was the house batts being 9 y/o didin't work too well and we seemed to drain from the starting batts. also the house batts did not supply enough power to keep the genni going so i would have to pull a wire from the red hat then crank it and put the wire on at the same time. when i started the bus it would take so much off the house that the genni would turn off from the low voltage. |
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb
Post Number: 1022 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.208.0.231
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 9:33 am: | |
Batteries are consumables...kinda like tires, and lubrication and yes, even fuel...just goes with the territory, as logic says. Whether or not there are "other issues" with the charging system, corrosion, etc, is another story...and part of "PM". Sorry for the minor "problems" but a good learning experience, I would think. Not "scary"; just practical "education" along the way of learning/enjoying/experiencing a great HOBBY. Forewarned ("education") is forearmed! Best wishes. FWIW RCB (Message edited by Chuckllb on December 09, 2009) |
Debo Cox (Debo)
Registered Member Username: Debo
Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 149.168.204.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 10:48 am: | |
Saw a great quote once that said something like (and I'm paraphrasing) "It's hard to explore oceans when you're afraid to lose sight of the shore." Words to live by. Prepare the best you can with proper PM, then improvise, adapt, and overcome when something goes south. |
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks
Post Number: 113 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 1:03 pm: | |
i had a blast and took it all to be an adventure. i got a lot of driving experiance as i had never driven a bus. so we went out of our way 400 miles big deal getting lost was all in the fun. the feelings of wifey were a different story... |
Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
Registered Member Username: Oonrahnjay
Post Number: 495 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 70.60.107.113
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 1:18 pm: | |
I've kinda set myself up for complications with spare parts that have to come from overseas, but the info on preventative maintenance still stands. And good conversions (like the NAmerican brake system that I'm installing right now) along with a smart carry-along parts kit should help. Do I expect "interesting adventures"? Yes. Will they kill my enjoyment? No, I don't think so. |
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred
Post Number: 1030 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.25
Rating: Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 4:14 pm: | |
We have fears because our grandfathers could not run as fast as the big lions and tigers. They have a place , but rationality overcomes them. FF |
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb
Post Number: 1024 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.208.88.154
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 8:12 pm: | |
RCB |
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