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Dale MC8 (64.66.195.200)

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Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 8:16 pm:   

I need some how, what, why stuff about GPS. I have a general idea of what it does, but not how to hook up the hardware, etc. My rear view monitor system has the provision to add on another input, ie: 2nd camera, video game, TV or GPS. Where can I find information about GPS receivers that will hook into this system? All the GPS’s I find are either hand-held or aircraft/marine systems. They either have a screen built in or are just a black box or need to hook into a PC. What have you used? What would you use? What would you do different? Why?

Any help you can give me will be appreciated. TFYH

Dale
modelt (208.18.102.43)

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Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 9:02 pm:   

http://www.thegpsstore.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/site/copilot.htm?L+thegpsstore+hrnp1682+1044160176
Run a video cable from your PC to your monitor.
Larry
Jason (24.107.39.46)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 12:11 am:   

I don't know of a GPS that will interface directly with a monitor. What I suggest is getting a generic GPS, something cheap from garmin and hooking up to your PC or laptop. Then if you have the capability on your computer, run a cable from it to your monitor, but you will still need to control the software from the computer. What you need is a navigator or two
Sean Welsh (Sean) (64.81.73.194)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 1:53 am:   

Dale,

AFAIK, the device you seek does not exist -- I am unaware of anyone making a dedicated GPS receiver that would output directly to NTSC video, which is what your rear monitor takes. (Ironically, going the other way 'round is easier -- there are dedicated GPS-based nav systems that will accept external video inputs and even some with the mirror-image capability to use a straight-image camera on the back).

To put dedicated driver-viewable GPS navigation on your dash, you have basically two options. (By dedicated, I mean a system that does not involve your computer to drive the display -- illegal in many states, and certainly here in CA where, if you happen to be stopped for something else, you WILL be cited for this.)

Option 1: This is the simplest and most straightforward -- get a "handheld" GPS system that has the features and screen that appeals to you. I went this route, and use a Garmin GPSMAP 176C, which has a nice, large, bright color screen. A side benefit of this type of solution is that the unit is portable, and I can unclip it and move it to my other vehicles easily. Another convenient feature is that I can have the data stream output from this unit and shipped over to the computer (which is at the navigator's position and not visible to me, so no legal issues). I can see the GPS screen, and she gets a similar but more flexible view on the PC. Other popular GPS units to use for this purpose are the Garmin GPS V+, Garmin StreetPilot (various models) and a couple of the Magellan systems.

Option 2: Get a GPS navigation system specifically designed for vehicle installation. Pioneer makes a nice one, which will also allow you to dispay other video, including your backup camera, on the same screen. Bear in mind these systems start at around $2,000 and go up from there.

Of course, you can always take your chances with the law and go the third route, which is to get a handheld type receiver (or one made explicitly for this purpose, with no readout at all) and hook it to a computer. Either position the computer screen to be visible directly, or, as has already been suggested, use a video adapter to direct the computer's screen output to the video monitor you already have for your rear-view (just bear in mind that _most_ monitors made explicitly for video images, as opposed to computer output, do not have the resolution required to get a good image from your computer).

HTH

-Sean
modelt (208.18.102.53)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 10:11 am:   

The GPS I linked above uses your laptop. Then as I said run a video cable from your laptop to your monitor.
If you have a laptop you are only talking 350.00.
Mine works so why wouldn't yours?
Check your laptop for a video port.
These are full blown turn by turn and voice recognition.
They do include the GPS antenna, I did not read the full thing since I got my mine, they have been updated.
Drop them a line if in doubt.
I sure would not spend anything like 2k for one.
Move from one vehicle to another and it works fine in my plane also (using the air program).
I don't sale or have any connection with them, just a satisfied customer.

Larry
Don KS/TX (205.187.92.237)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 12:16 pm:   

I did the DeLorme GPS on a laptop linked to the monitor. It works well, except there IS that need to do some keyboard work for some functions, that can really detract from driving the bus. IF you have a navigator though, it is sure an excellent system, and priced much lower than other options.
One thing I liked, you can get REAL speedometer readings that way and calibrate your speedometer. Sure is nice to glance at it and see your position relative to next fuel or rest stop, find a library for internet stuff in the next town, or whatever breaks up the boredom of the trip.
Dale MC8 (64.66.207.13)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   

Larry, the link you suggest doesn't work with my system. The notice that comes up sez 'too few parameters.'

Dale
Don KS/TX (205.187.92.150)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 12:52 pm:   

Dale, you might go to www.delorme.com and get some information you are seeking. They have good products, I have been with them for years and years.
CoryDaneRTSIIIL (4.17.253.2)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 3:50 pm:   

There were some links and a LOOOOOOOOONG chat about the CoPilot TravRoute 2000, it should be in the archieves if not on this board anymore. It has a lot of good visuals and it can respond to voice commands as well as warn you verbally, the maps are good too, follows you and reroutes you if you miss the turn, lots more, find the string. cd
modelt (208.18.102.78)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 5:41 pm:   

Try this dale

www.thegpsstore.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/site/copilot.htm?L+thegpsstore+raep4359+1037308224
modelt (208.18.102.78)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 5:45 pm:   

www.thegpsstore.com

Dale I don't think that one worked also?

Try to type the above in address bar.

Sorry about the lower case d in last message.
Larry
modelt (208.18.102.78)

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Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 5:49 pm:   

http://www.thegpsstore.com

I don't know why these don't link, but it does when I type it in.

I guess I have compmindblowout.
Phil (204.89.170.126)

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Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 7:52 am:   

I use a Garmin GPSMAP196 in everything I own that moves. It's a portable handheld aviation unit that can be switched between it's aviation database and a built-in street map (limited to larger streets and highways). It is compatable with all of Garmins CD based databases including marine. It is the best portable aviation unit I have used. On the road it does turn-by-turn directions including rerouting on a missed turn. It is easily transfered from vehicle to vehicle (coach, car, plane). Due to its aviation database the cost is a little high ($995 retail, bought mine new for $850). It is worth the price IF you use it for flying as you are paying for the aviation database.
modelt (208.18.102.135)

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Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 9:56 am:   

Phil,
Your right it is a good unit we tried one in my plane it worked great.
The word aviation will run the price up for sure, like it does when they see what we call a bus, the $$$ sign lights up.
I have a little trouble setting it up at the right distance for me and my tri-bifocals.
Larry
Phil (204.89.170.126)

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Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 1:00 pm:   

Larry,
Yeah, ain't getting old great!!! I wear glasses with progressive lenses and once you get used to them they are all right. I have some difficulty reading the GPS in the coach as I usually drive without glasses. I have to use the glasses when I fly as I can't read the instruments without them. The coach instruments have bigger numbers!!! BTW, I can see fine at distances over 3 feet or so without the glasses.
modelt (208.18.102.135)

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Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 2:38 pm:   

Same here I can drive without but have problems exp with multi engines, so many gauges are on right, radio stack in middle.
I wore them for several years and had to have my prec changed, which is stronger, now I have to hunt for the right lens if you know what I mean. I can drive without because my distance vision falls inside the rules.
Larry
Jeff (Jeff) (68.10.101.219)

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Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 8:08 pm:   

If you are a Macintosh user, like me. http://www.gpsy.com/ is the website for Macintosh / GPS support.

Jeff
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Sean Welsh (Sean) (64.81.73.194)

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Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 10:13 pm:   

FWIW, the GPSMAP 176c that I mentioned in my post above is the same unit as the 196 you are talking about, but without the aviation stuff (and thus around $400 less). The -c is the color unit, without the -c it's gray scale. Same physical package as the 196, same processor and receiver, but no avionics displays. You won't find it in the land-based catalog, though, because it is marketed to the marine segment. But, like the 196, it has the entire US highway system built in, along with interstate exit services, and you can load the CD-based stuff for more detail.

Unless you also fly a plane, the 196 will have stuff you'll never use, and you'll pay a $400 premium.

-Sean

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