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| grant gunn (H82w8)
Registered Member Username: H82w8 Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 24.207.117.59  Rating: N/A |
have converted an old gillig 501 to a 3208 cat and need to find used parts for the side mounted fan assembly. thinking hydraulic even after reading alll the archives about the pros and cons. i have tryed the electric method and can give many answers where others didnt. (spent hours in archives)electric doesnt work. im hoping to find a used parts supplier in bc canada. whether it be hydraulicallly driven fan or belt. thanks in advance grant ps. id love to hear from busnuts that have done similar conversions. this thing is awesome and i love the people it attracts. (Message edited by h82w8 on February 19, 2010) | ||
| Tom Christman (Tchristman)
Registered Member Username: Tchristman Post Number: 184 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.218.33.156 Rating: N/A |
Look to newer Gillig Phantoms-I believe they have hyd powered fans. Good Luck, TomC P.S.-next step-change to a single piece swing front door-you won't believe the difference in keeping the weather and noise out. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 853 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.32.83.4 Rating: N/A |
Electric fans do work Mark (boomer)on this board has electric fans and drives a 45 ft Eagle with a Cummins engine all over the US and Mexico without problems. I don't think you could make the automotive type you buy in the 7/11 type auto parts work but his system works good luck | ||
| john daniels (Big_john)
Registered Member Username: Big_john Post Number: 26 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 75.109.199.63 Rating: N/A |
Re. Luvrbus If you get serious about electric fans, go to a hot rod or speed shop. They can get you the coreect fan for your cfm, and are really reasonable. I use them on extreme duty RTV's and have been very pleased. | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 1803 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.68.123.33  Rating: N/A |
Transits are/have been using lots of hydraulic fans for long enough that they should be into the scrap stream now. Another source is out of various construction equipment. If not in the logging areas of BC, then the oil patch next door in Alberta should yield lots of interesting scrap yards. happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 805 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.153.91  Rating: N/A |
Grant; I use electric fans whenever I can. They are more reliable than others as to breaking down and not running fast enough when low speed is cannot circulate enough air to keep things cool. Just for thought make sure of the rotation?? If it is pulling in,there must be ample room to remove the heated air. If your is pushing to the outside it will not cool enough at all. You will be pulling the heat off the engine and thru the radiator and that will not work. just my thoughts on the matter. Gomer | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1090 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.9.80  Rating: N/A |
The usual belt drive is a pain to engineer and mfg , but probably #1 for reliability and efficiency. Easy to trouble shoot too! FF | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1854 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
Read the article and check out the web sites referenced at bottom of article; One of those companies offerings may do. http://fleetowner.com/equipment/whatsnewin/fleet_whats_new_engine_3/ | ||
| Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)
Registered Member Username: Kyle4501 Post Number: 532 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 74.179.155.250  Rating: N/A |
Some Prevos use a belt driven side mount fan, that may be another place to look. | ||
| larry currier (Larryc)
Registered Member Username: Larryc Post Number: 309 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 64.40.62.26 Rating: N/A |
Mid 80's Thomas school buses used the Cat 3208 and had a mechanical fan that is simple and would be easy to retro fit into most apps. Likely matches your crank pulleys and 90's to a driveline that could be shortened or lengthened for most any bus. | ||
| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 495 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.165.176.62  Rating: N/A |
This is the belt setup on my Flx http://members.tccoa.com/timb/Flx/100_5831.jpg | ||
| grant gunn (H82w8)
Registered Member Username: H82w8 Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 72.25.192.4 Rating: N/A |
hey all.thanks for the great replies. sorry about taking so long to respond but i actually lost the website for a while.*was sure there was an "s" at the end of busnut. oh well. solved my problem by fabbing a pully system very close to timb's photo. problem solved. fyi. the electric setup i purchased from a well known cooling system expert was a dual fan with shroud setup that purportedly moved huge amounts of air, wouldnt even come close to cooling the bus. i added a second radiator and a second electric fan, and it still overheated on the long hills. fabbed up a way to reinstall the original fan and it runs like a top. thanks again. grant | ||
| grant gunn (H82w8)
Registered Member Username: H82w8 Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 72.25.192.4 Rating: N/A |
hey tchristman. am very interested in your post on the one peice door conversion.. where would i find info on that? |