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Lee Brady (Leeb11) (168.192.25.204)

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Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 4:27 pm:   

Hi all
One thing you have to do is check up on the folks that service your rig.
Had mine serviced before the bus rally and was told all the levels in the rear end a trans were full.
Well today i crawled under the bus and found the rear end low, 10 quarts low!!!
it only hold 17 quarts.
Now i hope i havent burnt up a bearing or tore up the third member.
It was about 1000 miles round trip for us and there is no sign that the gear lube leaked out
under the bus it it dry ? no gear lube in the drums nowhere.
Any thoughts out there if i damaged anything.
Make sure you go behind and check your boxes
Thanks
Lee
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Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (65.194.145.48)

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Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 5:03 pm:   

Couple of thoughts here. The first and perhaps the most likely is that the place that serviced your coach NEVER even checked the stuff they said they did.

If they had, one would think they would be eager to sell you 10 quarts of gear oil at a very very high markup. Makes me wonder what else they missed?

The second possibility is that---and bear with me on this one---no disrespect intended or implied here--could you have checked the wrong plug on the rear end?

Reason I ask this is that my Crown tandem drivers have three (3) plugs on each rear end. A high one, a middle one and a very low drain plug. I think the middle one is for an oiler cooler.

I mean where would 10 quarts of gear oil go? You already said the drums are dry and there is no sign of any leakage around the hub ends. A mystery here of the missing gear oil.

Finally, no, I do not think running the driver that low for that long would permanently ruin anything. Still bet you had enough to splash the important stuff. Good luck. Henry of CJ.
DaveD (216.18.113.69)

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Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 5:06 pm:   

I had that happen to me on a motor home I had, after I had paid through the nose for a complete inspection and extensive service on it(including draining and replacing the differential oil). The bearing in one hub overheated and seized, an axle shaft snapped and the rear end housing was ruined,as well as our vacation. Towing and repairs came to about $2,000 (and this was just on a motor home), not to mention extra work that resulted from damage when it was towed to a shop. I didn't have much choice when it happened away from home.

Either take your bus to a mechanic you have absolute trust in or check it yourself before leaving home.
Frank Allen (205.188.209.11)

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Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 8:08 pm:   

check the pinion seal , find out where that oil is going and dont go anywhere until you get it done the pinion will not leak unless you are running. i ruined mine that way
Frank allen
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Mrbus (205.188.209.11)

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Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   

Remember back a week or so ago, all the conversation as to which gauges were important and which ones were for show. Had you had a temp. gauge installed in the rear end, you would have been aware of the additional heating caused by lack of oil. or if it didn't get too hot, you would have the peace of mind that you did not hurt anything. There are no gauges that are fluff if you watch them.
Gus Haag
DaveD (64.235.198.76)

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Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 10:12 pm:   

It shouldn't be necessary to have a gauge on a differential. Most of them run for years and years with no problem. In my case there was prbabaly still enough oil to lubricate the differential itself. There was no sign of lekage, no oil on the driveway under the motor home when it was parked. The guy who hosed me probably wasn't beyond charging for oil he didn't put in as well. It's been over eleven years and it seems I still miffed.

DaveD
jc (205.188.209.11)

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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 1:01 am:   

I tend to agree with Henry. Were you pulling a towed or do you have a mudflap across the rear? Ten quarts of diff oil in 1000 miles (one quart per 100 miles?) should have left a hell of a mess on someone or something back there. jc
Lee Brady (Leeb11) (65.179.1.46)

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Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 9:00 am:   

Thanks guys for all the feed back.
I did it to myself , I always check the boxes on a regular basis,however i took it to a shop that works on trucks and buses.
I took for granted that the work was done right.
At least they put the oil in the engine after the oil change.
Its a mystery, no oil on anything under the bus or on the back of it,wasnt towing anything.
I checked the plug on the back end of the housing
which would be the oil level hole.
Thanks for the input.
Lee LeeB11 66 01

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