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Wayne Buttress (Flyingb) (209.77.201.130)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 3:20 pm: | |
Is there a reason not to use a standard 30" gas slide in stove, as opposed to the usual 21" dropins that are in most stick and staple rigs? I'm looking for pros and cons.
Thanks, Wayne |
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (64.114.233.57)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 3:33 pm: | |
Wayne, they're not designed to be used in a moving vehicle; the reports that I've seen indicate that they cannot be made safe for that use.
Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher |
Michael J (Mjryan) (67.41.245.112)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 4:40 pm: | |
Tom, what reports are talking about? I've been using one for years in my updated RV. I also used stadard size kitchen cabinets, counters, sinks ect. If there is a safety issue I need to know so I can make it right. Will be selling it soon, when I get the bus.
Thanks
Michael j |
Sam Sperbeck (206.230.105.250)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 4:50 pm: | |
If they are unsafe that is the best reason not to use one, but, other reasons are: they would take room that can be better used for other things, such as countertop space, they are heavy, and from our experience ovens are not needed. We have an rv stove/oven in our 4106 and in 12 years have used the oven only twice. We also have 4 burners on it and have never used all 4 at once (only 3), so we are installing a 3 burner cooktop and a microwave/convection in our Prevost. We paid $65 for our cooktop, new, so if cost is your reason for useing a 30" range, reconsider. Maybe you have other reasons that make useing one attractive.
Thanks,Sam |
Scott Whitney (66.82.9.28)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 8:27 pm: | |
The only reason to have an oven can be explained in one word: PIZZA
I don't like microwaved pizza and the toaster oven is too small. However, a house sized oven is overkill for a pizza. An RV oven is perrrrrfect.
Are ovens used for anything else other than pizza?
Seriously, though, besides the size, I'd be afraid the racks and burners would rattle like the dickens unless you had a way to fasten them down.
Scott |
Jim Stacy (32.101.44.166)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 9:10 pm: | |
Wayne,
My wife is a COOK and would not spend extended time in an RV without a working oven. I had aquired a Magic Chef with a 17" oven from a new, totaled class A I was parting out. I had to dispose of the 17" and buy a 22" unit since the 17" was too small to be called an oven, in her opinion.
I must admit, she uses the oven several times a week as my expanding waistline shows.
BTW, these stoves have their own special problems if you really plan on actually using one. We had a problem scorching the cooktop at full flame of the burners until I found some new burner grates redesigned by Magic Chef. (The new style has rounded ends and a slightly raised pan height.)
The oven had a tendency to scorch food on the bottom. Two things helped: The lady tech at the factory claimed the thermostat heats to approximately 500 degrees F when the oven is first turned on regardless of what temp you have selected. Then it cools to 325 or whatever setting you have chosen. Be SURE to preheat oven and give temp time to stabilize before inserting food. This made things better but my cook was still not impressed. We ran across a hint somewhere that suggested placing a 12" square non glazed ceramic tile under the pan in the oven. This quieted things in the kitchen significantly.
I had thought I might have to resort to an apartment size unit, but these changes have brought peace to our old bus. FWIW.
Jim Stacy |
slo (24.205.227.122)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 9:23 pm: | |
Scott.......Bravo!!!
I've had to lower myself to cutting them up and going the microwave route. I too have a 3 burner stove, no oven planned for my MCI kitchen.....
And for you M*A*S*H fans, "Just cross out machine gun, and write in PIZZA OVEN"......LOL |
Nick Russell (66.82.214.72)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 12:13 am: | |
Like Jim's pretty wife, mine is also a very good cook, and we live in our bus fulltime. She would not consider life on the road without a stove and oven.
Nick
www.gypsyjournal.net |
FAST FRED (209.26.115.209)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 5:31 am: | |
If your life style is reheated microwave from Taco Bell ,
only a radar oven is needed.
My wife loves to cook so we have an apartment sized range.
This will do a 14lb Turkey , so its big enough for just us,.
If youy enjoy home cooked food be sure the range has a broiler and oven too.
A design choice is the amount of counter space ,
Wanderlodge usually gives about a square foot , but what do you want for only a half mil?
We chose to have almost 20 FEET of counter space in the coach , so the difference between an apartment 24in or a std sized 36in wouldn't come to much loss.
Quality units are heavy ( if there any good)as the mass is needed when bread or pies are baked.
The only hassle is getting it bolted down ,
so you wont be wearing it after a slow roll ,
and working out a nice way of keeping the oven & broiler doors secured while underway.
In the heat of the summer we frequently use the RV galley to bake & broil , which keeps the cottage from heating up at all.
Works for Me!
FAST FRED |
Geoff (Geoff) (66.238.120.85)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 7:21 am: | |
I picked up a very nice two-burner LP cooktop made by KitchenAid (we don't need three burners) and a microwave/convection oven that also acts as an exhaust fan. The convection oven is big enough to bake everything short of a turkey and does an excellent job on pizza (for Jim). I like to BBQ a lot so I use a propane BBQ and a large two-burner LP outdoor stove-- this also keeps the cooking odors down in the bus.
--Geoff
'82 RTS CA |
David & Lorna Schinske (Davidschinske) (64.24.236.63)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 8:35 am: | |
I have had a small countertop convection oven in the past and they brown turkeys & breads beautifully. BUT it was difficult to get a large round pizza in the oven. I always had to cut it in half. Also you must either be hooked up to shore power or run your microwave off of an inverter. How are you set up? I have been told that a pizza stone or an airbake insulated cookie sheet in the ovens also keeps stuff from burning. MUST have pizza. It's a perfect food...all of the food groups are combined in one. Also must bake bread!!! It's the only domestic thing I like to do. King Arthur's Baker's Catalog has a "Hearthkit Oven Insert" ($220) that will convert an oven into "tradional brick oven". The thing has a 1" thick base and the minimum width is 17" (14.75" D x 7" H). I wonder if it will fit the larger RV ranges.
Lorna |
Sam Sperbeck (206.230.105.250)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:09 am: | |
Jim,
My wife is also a COOK, but I was just reporting our experience. A lot depends on how you use your bus, we mainly use ours for weekend trips and bus rallies. While my wife is an exellent COOK, she also likes to enjoy the activities at the rallies instead of having to cook, so we prepare food ahead for potlucks and our meals so we don't have to spend much time in the kitchen. The one summer we spent traveling for 10 weeks we used the outside grill a lot and also ate out a lot. After all she was on vacation too! When I lived in the bus while working construction (heavy equipment operator) I worked such long hours I didn't feel like spending much time cooking either. We prepared meals ahead of time that could just be warmed up for evenings. Since Wayne didn't state the reason for wanting to use a 30" range I just shared our experience for consideration. If you hadn't capitalized COOK I would not have commented further, but since you did capitalize COOK I felt further explanation was appropriate.
Thanks, Sam |
Carroll Sasscer (68.155.49.89)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:35 am: | |
I would use a trailor to carry the oven if needed so that my wife could bake up her wonderful biscuits and gravy for breakfast. Could probably use a "small" one if it weren't for all the company we get when those babies are ready. Hate to have to post first come first served - seems so un-neighborly like.
Carroll PD 4104-3457 |
Mrbus (205.188.209.11)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:52 am: | |
Like everything else on this site, this is one of those personal life style choices. But my Dad is the baker around here, and when everyone awakens to the aroma of his fresh cinnamon rolls wafting from his bus, there is a quick lineup. He also makes some of the best pastries, and complete meals while we are camping, that if I ever build a bus, I will deffinitely have an oven. In the meantime our old Pace does have a pretty good stove and oven.
Rick Haag |
Phil (204.89.170.126)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 2:25 pm: | |
My old unit had the RV oven, my current has a microwave/convection. She hates the microwve/convection!!!! I will probably have to change to an oven. |
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (64.114.233.202)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:28 pm: | |
Michael J, I seem to recall that there was concern about some parts of the range being susceptible to vibration or movement; I thought that Fast Fred made one of those reports after he inquired of a manufacturer.
I just did some searches and did not find the posts I was looking for, so right now, it's just a memory. Perhaps someone else can contribute something here.
I'm sorry about not being able to find the source.
Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher |
Keith-Flx-FL (Keith) (167.1.146.100)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:31 pm: | |
At Jack's rally, I asked almost eeryone I talked to about this delima... 3 or 4 burner... stove or Convection microwave or oven...
Overwhelmingly... everyone stated a 2 or 3 burner cooktop and convection microwae are all that is needed.
I'll take their advice as it speaks from experience. |
David Anderson (66.90.194.207)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:55 pm: | |
I chose the RV style from Magic Chef because I needed the floor underneath as a pipe chase for plumbing. A 30" apartment style wouldn't give me that unless I raised the stove. That would of made my counter too high.
David Anderson |
FAST FRED (209.26.115.228)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 5:17 am: | |
"I seem to recall that there was concern about some parts of the range being susceptible to vibration or movement; I thought that Fast Fred made one of those reports after he inquired of a manufacturer."
The Mfg. that panicked was one that made the "Cozy" brand of wall heaters.
The concept of his vented thru the wall furnace being driven on a standard road gave him nightmares!!
He worried about the combustion chamber sepreating from the exhaust pipe & quick death of the occupants.
House ranges are usually much more robust than these cheap heaters.
I have no fears about out 4 burner apt sized range , oven & broiler.
IN most cases there is a vast difference between RV , or marine (made for vehicles that move ) and house trailer (bolted down) equippment.
Buyer Beware!
FAST FRED |
Wayne Buttress (Flyingb) (209.77.201.130)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 4:38 pm: | |
Thanks for the input guys. I can't see a reason not to go ahead and use a free standing apt size range, as long as it is mounted properly.
Wayne |
FAST FRED (209.26.115.226)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 4:31 am: | |
"as long as it is mounted properly."
And you figure a way to keep the oven & broiler doors from popping open.
Have heard great things about "child pruf " locking items ,
But still am using a string on mine!
Go Gourmet!
FAST FRED |