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| Debbie and Joe Cannarozzi (Joe_camper)
Registered Member Username: Joe_camper Post Number: 262 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 99.23.130.210  Rating: N/A |
If you have this you may want to make a file of this link. It is an artical by a friend of mine. It contains every part# and price of every component and then compares it with simply replacing the a-arms when the bushings go bad. Big difference. I don't think the shops that are currently suggesting replacement instead of reabuilding are just throwing out the old a-arms, do you? http://prevostmotorhomes.ning.com/forum/topics/front-ifs-rebuild-cost | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 881 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.32.83.4 Rating: N/A |
Joe,I owned a 1996 Prevost I bought new from Vogue and was the first to have IFS and Prevost replaced the A- Frames every time (every 15,000 or so miles). It took Prevost till 2000 to figure out the problems with the IFS it was a nightmare for me but never cost me a dime. good luck | ||
| Debbie and Joe Cannarozzi (Joe_camper)
Registered Member Username: Joe_camper Post Number: 263 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 99.23.130.210 Rating: N/A |
They are not doing if for free any longer. | ||
| Debbie and Joe Cannarozzi (Joe_camper)
Registered Member Username: Joe_camper Post Number: 270 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 99.23.130.210 Rating: N/A |
UPDATE AND FURTHER INFORMATION Last weekend down at Georges Tool & Die I noticed his upper a-arms were slightly different from what I was used to seeing and it lead me to this information. First the XLV with IFS. In 98 they came out with a new upper arm with a new # and new rebuild part#s as well. At that time they made the previous upper a-arm obsolete and unavailable. SO................... If you have a pre 98 XLV with IFS your bus originally came with different uppers but if you have had new a-arms put in at Prevo after 98 they are the new style already and IMO you CAN comfortably rebuild these new arms at half the cost of new replacement. Even less usually being just the 2 bushings and a dirt boot. If you have your originals, although those bushings ARE still available to rebuild them I would suggest going to the newer design and then those will wear better and WILL be rebuildable going forward. It was mid year 98 they made the change and your vin # will tell them if your 98 was early with the old style or not. If you have a pre98 and do not know what is under there you should find out. When the time comes to replace them and you already have the newer design you will have spent about double what you needed to if you just throw them away for another set of new ones. Now, EVERY XLV ever made with IFS carries 1 common part # currently available at prevo.(the lowers are not interchangable like the uppers and carry different left and right part #s) This continued till the XLII XLII......... it carries a new and different upper arm and part # than XLV's. Again with the XLII, just like the XLV, in 2003 they superceeded that original upper arm and part# with a new and improved one and discontinued the previous. SO.......... If youhave a PRE 2003XLII it came with upper a-arms that are now obsoleete and no longer available. If you need bushings you are gonna have to bite the bullet and get the new arms if you curently still have the originals in it. If that bus has had uppers installed in it after 2003 you got the right ones now and you can rebush what you have at half the cost. If you are unsure and are expecting this maintenence you would benifit from that info. Currently Every XLII with IFS ever built carries one common part # with prevo,same way the XLV went. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 884 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.32.83.4 Rating: N/A |
Joe that is good info you are passing to the Prevost owners. They redesigned the front end also in 2000 after I sold mine and now I see they did it again in 2003 maybe they got it right this time. Prevost always told me problems were caused by the system being new and my answer was always Eagle has used it since 1957 so get it right Prevost are good buses but do have front end problems they carry a lot of weight on the front. It is real good info for me as I am making a deal on a h-41 with a bad front end and a blown 60 series (Message edited by luvrbus on April 17, 2010) | ||
| Debbie and Joe Cannarozzi (Joe_camper)
Registered Member Username: Joe_camper Post Number: 271 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 99.23.130.210 Rating: N/A |
Yes the heavy front ends are really something. 315-80's no longer do the job. Front end weights on these bohemouths are now dictating 365's. Yes in 2000 when they went from the XLV to the XLII the upper a-arms did change with the chassis. They have built 2 different sets for both models making 4 different part #s. The discontinued arms are no longer available for either model BUT the rebuilding components still are. Luverbus I would like to believe that the newer designed upper arms for the XLV's too,(pre-2000), are hopefully preforming correctly or at least much better than their previous counterparts. IMHO when we drop our front ends all the way down for long periods of time like many motorhomes commonly do it really gets those upper arm bushings in a twist they don't like. I am not too uncomfortable with droping the front camping but when we park and the front drops and stays like that for who knows how long that is damaging them prematurely. (Message edited by joe camper on April 17, 2010) |