| Author | Message | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 224 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
i am trying to get the front shocks off on my 4106 but the top nuts will not loosen,even with an impact gun. any good ideas? cant use heat as there is a brake line at the top of the shock on the drivers side. | ||
| Dan West (Utahclaimjumper)
Registered Member Username: Utahclaimjumper Post Number: 214 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 208.66.38.60 Rating: N/A |
PB Blaster,,at your local NAPA store.>>>Dan | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1156 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.1.215  Rating: N/A |
A nut cracker as a last resort. I've often used them on my 4104. Sometimes it is the fast and easy way when rust has taken over completely. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 225 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
not really rusty just tight | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1144 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.38  Rating: N/A |
"not really rusty just tight" Could be a combination of a fine nut and a coarse screw, lubrication will help. FF | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 226 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
these are the proper nuts on the proper post. | ||
| Debbie and Joe Cannarozzi (Joe_camper)
Registered Member Username: Joe_camper Post Number: 268 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 99.23.130.210  Rating: N/A |
Not to imply your tools are no good but sometimes a squirt of air tool oil gives them the kick they need. Move that line or shield it so you can bring heat. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 227 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
no way to easily move the line... i have even tried a extension bar to no avail. the guy that was to install the shocks never showed up. | ||
| Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
Registered Member Username: Dreamscape Post Number: 648 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 64.40.216.39  Rating: N/A |
PB Blaster and patience. You have to remember, nuts will become one with the bolt over time. Subject to all kinds of conditions, they will almost weld themselves together. Thread stretch when you touque them down, that's what helps hold them together. If you can't use heat, get a die grinder or nut buster, as was suggested, and cut them off, replace with new. You should anyway. | ||
| John MC9 (John_mc9)
Registered Member Username: John_mc9 Post Number: 1118 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 74.162.82.164  Rating: N/A |
(probably left-hand thread)(don't ya' just hate that?) Just Chisel the ^%^&# thing on the edge of the nut (spreading it out), that'll help, along with the PB from NAPA. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 228 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
CANT GET IN THERE TO CHISEL IT OUT.... i would have to remove the wheel on soft ground. how would i get my lug nuts off? | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 1846 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.71.103.232  Rating: N/A |
No easy way. Welcome to the "other part" of this busnut disease. Make it happen. happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| Grant Thiessen (Busshawg)
Registered Member Username: Busshawg Post Number: 246 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 206.45.93.160  Rating: N/A |
I find getting mad sometimes helps to make it happen | ||
| John MC9 (John_mc9)
Registered Member Username: John_mc9 Post Number: 1119 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 74.162.82.164 Rating: |
Thomas - I'm putting a list together of the various words I've used in the past, to get seemingly impossible jobs done. You might want to go out and buy some extra bandages and maybe a tourniquet during the time I'm getting the list together, since the words usually have more impact after an initial flow of blood. Years ago, I'd send my wife into the house during the critical work, but now after 47 years, she and the neighbors pull up lawn chairs and pass around the chips and beer..... (I always have trouble figuring out who they're rooting for, tho...) | ||
| Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)
Registered Member Username: Kyle4501 Post Number: 560 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 65.23.106.193  Rating: N/A |
Do they really need replacing? Shocks are often over rated . . .  A torque multiplier will turn the nut or bust the socket. If you don't already have one, now might be a good time to get one. I have one & it makes short work of loosening stubborn nuts. I got mine (a Sweeney rated at 2200 ft-lbs) off eBay. (Message edited by kyle4501 on April 15, 2010) | ||
| George Martinez (Foohorse)
Registered Member Username: Foohorse Post Number: 73 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 174.48.6.180  Rating: |
for those that like PB blaster. Kano Kroil puts it to shame every time. it is hard to find but worth it. in the marine industry where corrosion is a real problem this product is a must have in the tool box. Grant sometimes getting mad busts your knuckles | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 229 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
2 shots and i got my nuts off!! great stuff... yes i do need shocks. i bruised or cracked my tailbone and messed up my hip last time i hit a pothole. i still hurt down to my left boy and it has been 3 months | ||
| George Martinez (Foohorse)
Registered Member Username: Foohorse Post Number: 74 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 174.48.6.180 Rating: N/A |
well getting your nuts off is a very good thing. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 230 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
i now have 2 new shocks in the front. i think the rear may be harder? but i did find 2 wires under the front left wheel i pulled each one and it dumped air from a tank. only problem is the outlets are on the side not the bottom. | ||
| Cable (Fe2_o3)
Registered Member Username: Fe2_o3 Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 71.112.201.48  Rating: N/A |
"My nuts are too tight" Try boxers...Cable | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 882 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.153.91  Rating: N/A |
Ijust finished taking off some nuts that a 1" air wrench,15/16 socket,6 point wouldn't budge. I took some PB Blaster and soaked it down and got a propane torch and heated it just enough that you could hold it and then put a 3/4 impact on it and it turned right off. Found the threads were a little stretched and re-threaded them and put the puppies back on without any trouble. They have at HVAC places a blanket or I call it a paste like substance that you can weld next to a pipe,wiring,etc without harming anything, I does work!! Gomer | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1227 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.244.165.244 Rating: N/A |
Wonder if that would work on freeing a bypass valve (3/4 inch, square end) in a cooling system??? Tried the heating...a 4 foot "cheater" on a pipe wrench handle....nada...nothing...zip...wouldn't budge after liquid wrench, heating with mapp gas and...and...and... Did not try my torque wrench...didn't want to replace it. Just do not want to mess up the system, so "gave up"...and that is not like me.. RCB | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 883 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.153.91 Rating: N/A |
RC!! IF you can heat it up and put PB Blaster around the thing, Then put a little pressure on it with your wrench or rachet and tap it not hard but consistent pressure maybe back and forth it may come loose. It may have a packing nut or collar on it and see if you can loosen that up and do the same thing on it. Can you post a picture of it? will try to help. Gomer | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1157 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 72.161.172.242 Rating: N/A |
I use the over priced Kroil for a number of years until I got tired of the price. Switched to the much cheaper PB Blaster from WM and can't tell the difference!! | ||
| Len Silva (Lsilva)
Registered Member Username: Lsilva Post Number: 352 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 72.187.35.208  Rating: N/A |
There is no mechanical problem that cannot be solved by brute force and ignorance! | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1229 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.244.32.145 Rating: N/A |
yeah....at the possible "expense" of either the subject problem or the mechanic....or, in my case, sometimes (usually) both!... Have not tried the PB Blaster...wiil "re-think" my priorities; and the brute force thing! Thanx.....I think. RCB | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1146 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.16 Rating: N/A |
"There is no mechanical problem that cannot be solved by brute force and ignorance!" Spoken like a mechanic at a Harley dealer ! "Don't use force , get a bigger hammer". FF | ||
| Jim (Jimnh)
Registered Member Username: Jimnh Post Number: 507 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 70.16.199.254 Rating: N/A |
Try mixing acetone and ATF 50/50. Amazing how well it works. | ||
| George Martinez (Foohorse)
Registered Member Username: Foohorse Post Number: 76 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 174.48.6.180 Rating: N/A |
Gus you are right about the the kroil being pricey. I keep both PB and Kroil in stock. and resort to the kroil when PB won't work for me. but who knows since I am a believer in the reality creation view of things perhaps I am jinxing the PB while at the same time fortifying the Kroil with positive mental energy strength...OR perhaps I am just mental, who knows, after all I did buy a burned out bus. | ||
| David Evans (Dmd)
Registered Member Username: Dmd Post Number: 446 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 173.77.207.138  Rating: N/A |
Anybody ever use Gibbs Oil? Its pretty good stuff. I cant wait to try Jim's mixture(the 50/50 mix), Jim do you use it in a spray bottle? | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1159 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.8.206 Rating: N/A |
George, I also tried "Mouse Milk" which is supposed to be the very best thing in aviation maintenance. It is no better than any of the others and makes Kroil seem cheap. Any unusual mental condition is helpful for us busnuts, we need all we can get!! | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1149 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.24 Rating: N/A |
is supposed to be the very best thing in aviation maintenance. It is no better than any of the others and makes Kroil seem cheap. What ever you try , don't do it with an "aviation" hammer , or you will find out what expensive is!! FF | ||
| George Martinez (Foohorse)
Registered Member Username: Foohorse Post Number: 81 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 174.48.6.180 Rating: N/A |
Mouse milk? I wonder what the advertising team was smoking when they decided on that name for this product | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1160 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.46.216 Rating: N/A |
George, I kinda wondered the same thing. It was not a pleasant thought when using it!!! | ||
| David Evans (Dmd)
Registered Member Username: Dmd Post Number: 447 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 173.77.207.138 Rating: N/A |
My grandad used to say that about STP, he called it mouse milk, It wont hurt you but it wont help you is the skinny on mouse milk. | ||
| George Martinez (Foohorse)
Registered Member Username: Foohorse Post Number: 87 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 174.48.6.180 Rating: N/A |
Fred the aviation hammer can be used but it has to be handled by a skilled operator possessing a high degree of physical fortitude with a complete encyclopaedic knowledge of colourful expletives being delivered at very high decibels. Oh and mouse milk of course | ||
| clint hunter (Truthhunter)
Registered Member Username: Truthhunter Post Number: 616 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 24.129.238.13  Rating: N/A |
...not that I recomend heating anything that must go back into service , such as a shock stud that is not so easy to change, but perhaps you can shielf the air lines , or remove it. old brake lining makes great head shield , as does aluminum between the wet rag (on the lines) and a flame. |
