| Author | Message | ||
| Jim Wilkerson (Wagwar)
Registered Member Username: Wagwar Post Number: 52 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 12.158.159.58 Rating: N/A |
On my 1981 MC 9, I'd like to switch out 6 of the steel wheels for alumninum (Accuride). The mechanic has looked at the bus and says that I have to replace the studs 'all the way around'. As I understand it, I need: 20 left hand threaded studs for the driver side (steer and tag); 20 right hand threaded studs for the passenger side (steer and tag); 10 left hand threaded 'inner nuts' for the drive axle; 10 right hand threaded 'inner nuts' for the pass. side. ? 10-hole teflon gaskets to separate the inner steel wheel from the outer drive aluminum. I've got several questions: 1. Does anyone have part numbers for these - not listed in my manual. 2. Does anyone know where I can get this hardware - MCI is overpriced and out of stock. 3. Is there anything else I need that I have not listed? Thanks in advance! | ||
| ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
Registered Member Username: Shadowman Post Number: 278 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 75.230.22.52 Rating: N/A |
Take one of each stud and nut with you to a heavy duty truck parts store and they should have a book to match up what you have with what you need. | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 166.183.201.133 Rating: N/A |
In Tucson we there is a business called WHEEL SERVICE, they stock everything related to HD/OTR wheels. Perhaps you have something similar in your town? | ||
| Larry Nelson (Larryn4106)
Registered Member Username: Larryn4106 Post Number: 57 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 174.157.70.147 Rating: N/A |
I was going to change out my wheels to these as well. I gave up as it seemed to be just too much hassle. Let us know how this works for you. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 886 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.32.83.4 Rating: N/A |
Jim, www.ryderfleetproducts.com I pay a buck 1.20 for the inner nuts and around .50 cents for the outer nuts studs are a good price also depending on the size I never paid over 3 bucks for the ones I used and free shipping on some | ||
| Jim Wilkerson (Wagwar)
Registered Member Username: Wagwar Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 12.158.159.58 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Luvrbus for that link. The problem is that I have no idea what part numbers or part specification I need. They aren't listed in the MCI manual I have. At least for the LH and RH studs for the steer and tags, MCI wants $15 each. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1169 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.39.9  Rating: N/A |
That is a good price for studs, mine cost around $8 each. I don't really see why you need new inner or outer nuts unless the Al wheel uses different type. Since the Al wheel is thicker and the exposed threads will be the same length?? | ||
| Debbie and Joe Cannarozzi (Joe_camper)
Registered Member Username: Joe_camper Post Number: 275 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 99.23.132.201  Rating: N/A |
On the drive duels the studs should suffice sticking with inner steel wheels. Unless the exzisting inner nuts were over length you will still need longer ones there. All the outer nuts will be the same. The steer studs certianly may end up too short. Did you do an exploritory and throw an aluminum rim up there to see where the original studs were getting to? I never had any kind of a gasket between metal and aluminum rims and never had any problems of any kind. | ||
| Debbie and Joe Cannarozzi (Joe_camper)
Registered Member Username: Joe_camper Post Number: 281 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 99.23.132.201 Rating: N/A |
On your drive axle with your current rims how much thread is exposed, how much thread can you see on the inner nut with the outer nut on? If you have 1/2 in to 3/4 inch of thread showing on the inner nut sticking out past the outer nut it will probably be long enought to safley use them with the thicker flanges on the aluminum rims. You may luck out. Sometimes stuff used to have aluminum and it was fleeced. New nuts get put on perioticly and if the tire shops dont have the exact lengths they will use others. In any event if you are keeping the steel inner rims I would not change the studs and that is the lions share of your situation you want to do. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1888 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
now might be a good time to convert to hub piloted rims and appropriate studs and nuts if you haven't purchased the wheels yet. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1165 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.248.144.216  Rating: N/A |
With the savings of a couple of thousands of mini-bucks have you considered the use of a can of Aluminum spray paint ? The advantage to truckers of alloy wheels is extra load, extra CA$H . On a bus the difference in sprung vs un-sprung weight will be minor an the ride will be unchanged. So if the drill is for "looks" , paint the steel wheels ! The cash you save might be your own. FF | ||
| Greg (Mcibusnut)
Registered Member Username: Mcibusnut Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 70.67.167.225 Rating: N/A |
i just had aluminum wheel put on my MCI 8 last weekend. I did like what was previously said took my coach to the truck shop with my wheels and dry fit to see what i needed before the job was done. It rides smoother even if it is in my own mind and i bought my parts thru Freightliner Trucks. I did not have to change the studs on the steer or the tag just longer studs on the drives. Changed 5 nuts on the steer each sie to match the aluminum wheels outer nut EUC/E5977L outer nut right EUC/E5977R EUC/E7897L DRIVE WHEEL STUD EUC/E7897R DRIVE WHEEL STUD Hope this helps | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1167 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.248.144.216 Rating: N/A |
Mine feels better after an oil change. Amazing what the mind can do, FF | ||
| George Martinez (Foohorse)
Registered Member Username: Foohorse Post Number: 117 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 174.48.6.180  Rating: N/A |
come on Fred, I'm sure you must have noticed how your bus gets better fuel mileage when you wax it due to it being able to slip through the air with less friction. I will further this advantage by filling my tires with helium thereby making it lighter, I think I better check my meds maybe Gus is right | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 894 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.53.153.91  Rating: N/A |
ATTENTION ALL BUS NUTS!!! CVS HAS ALL DRUGS AVAILABLE AT DISCOUNT PRICES> CHECK IT OUT!!! Gomer | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 472 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 184.0.3.170 Rating: N/A |
We always installed as much chrome on our hot rod engines as possible because the slippery surface could be worth 2-3 mph at the drags. (The real reason the "chrome water neck" was invented!) |