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Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 5:29 pm:   

So a small opportunity appeared,
some 20 foot lengths of 1.5 in X 3 in. Aluminum Channel stock happened into the hands of a friend who
runs a scrap yard/recycle operation,
this stock likely came from Raytheon Missile Div. during a production line modification....like NEW.

At a dollar a pound to me the stock was about 30% of industrial retail.
I was originally going to TIG-up a trailer frame out of this stuff....
but slowly the idea came that I would like to have an "Upper Deck"
from which to gaze out over the landscape on my lawn chair whilst tending to the bar B que on lazy evenings.

So I built a mitered 6 X 16 foot frame for a deck.
And then I welded up some support legs & pads to mount the contraption to the roof of the 4106.

I dint want to use wood for the deck itself,
and I hated to waste the honeycomb alum. composite sheets that LearJet/Bombardier

had sold me at 10 cent on the dollar because they dint have mfg./lot numbers on them,
so I was in a quandry for deck material, lightweight & strong.

Did you know
that if you have a swimming pool AND you volunteer to REMOVE the diving board
that your insurance company will give you a discount...?
Diving boards starting appearing at the Yard in the spring.
Diving Board = 28 lbs each 18 inches by 72 in.
the weight of 96 Sq. Ft. of diving boards & framing equals the weight of the overhead baggage racks I removed.... it was a push!
So the deck is framed, mounted & the handrail stanchion bases afixed.
The stairway weighs 70 lbs & will roll up (rollers) top for storage in the knocked- down position (w/o handrails) along with all the handrails.
Along the front I mounted the leading edge of a wing from a Lear to ease the frontal flow of air over the deck (downforce!)
and there is a tube in it that extends out the side for the stairway to mount to,
I used another buried tube towards the rear for the same purpose, which allows for the stairs to go up in either direction.

I have 3 Magnesium arches that fit across the width of the deck that will support the rip-stop Nylon "roof",
they overhang enough to give late day shade or rain protection.
I haven't taken a photo of the handrail installed or with the arches up....
but the photos below will give you an idea of what I 'm doing.Basic deck installed...no frills yet!
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 5:37 pm:   

Here is a shot after the decking was installed along with the stanchion bases , side skirts, leading wing edge & stairs.

The device mounted in front of the deck is an R/V Swamp Cooler, great for hot dry desert air...not so much for the humid hot days tho!
Glenn Williams (Glenn)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 6:47 pm:   

More pictures!!! Fascinating!

Glenn
joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 6:53 pm:   

Leave it to Busnuts to keep the creative juices flowing!!!!!
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 8:44 pm:   

Diving board (strong, pliant and skidproof) idea is pure genius!
George Martinez (Foohorse)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 8:46 pm:   

Nicely done Jack. am I correct in assuming that this is very original? in my limited bus exposure I have not seen such a novel idea to increase the usable living area, not to mention the view. well done indeed.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 9:50 pm:   

Install diving board on roof...back up to the pool....YEEHAAW
marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 9:57 pm:   

Chessie! Take your medicine and lay down for a while, Maybe you will be ok in the morning??
Good thought tho! Not bad looking at all either. Good job
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 2:56 am:   

I posted a couple more photos on my Picasa page...
http://picasaweb.google.com/jackfids
Thanks for the kind words, I actually believe some of the encouraging words....
you're as good a bunch of liars as I hoped you would be!

BTW...
just in case you get to thinking dangerous thoughts like me,
I fab'ed all of the leg & foot material I bought
which means I have enough left-overs for another deck of the same size for a 4106/07/4905 etc. they'd actually work on any round cornered coach it's just that the curvature placement might cause the frame to be more or less than the six foot I accomplished...I even have the extra rubber footpads.
I'll make you a great deal on them.
don goldsmith (Bottomacher)
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 8:27 am:   

Wonder if RJ saw that Corvair van next to the 4106...
Dave Walker (Chrome_dome)
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 10:51 am:   

Nice job Jack. Nice Bus too.
My rack on my truck is made out of that same size and type aluminum and is very strong stuff and a clean look. Where is the TV mount going to be and Soda Holder?

Dave
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:38 pm:   

#2505 has seen some better days I admit, and it shows it.
During a winter run during it's "revenue" days, it was run into the ditch on the Entry side, which sprung the door & the first bay door.
The evidence can be seen in the Entry Door skin.

* YES George, it was an original idea, going back to a 1965 Dodge A-100 Van I bought in 1970, back then we loved sleeping under the stars & watching for Mereorites.

* RJ does know about my Corvair problem, perhaps he's forgotten, years ago I used to post here as "OAE Palmer".
So many people took the name to indicate that I was a Chiropractor that I decided to drop the handle,
not wanting to impugn their good name and all like that.
(roll-eyes here)
"OAE Palmer" stood for- Old Antarctic Explorer- Palmer Station

BTW & FWIW
a Corvair Van with 500lbs. of cargo rides & drives just like a 4106....
Haven't owned any vehicle since 1976 that WASN'T a Corvair!

The way the frame for the deck is mounted I have a hunch that it likely stiffened the the entire Coach a bit, fore to aft.
This spring I'll have some "Rhino Coat" type pick-up bed liner sprayed on the deck
...although I have recently seen some "Astrp Turf" that is mighty rugged
and THAT would make a really different surface on the roof of a Bus
.....maybe I'll take up golf...who knows!



(secret message to Jorge- I am the one in the upper left corner in the vest)

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