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christopher l cole sr. (Muziklvr)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 2:58 am:   

just as the heading says... im replacing the factory temp gauge that got busted . was the fact gauge a maual gauge or elec with a sending unit?
Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 6:25 am:   

electrical. I presume you are neg ground y now so replacing it should not be that hard? When you say busted, do you mean does not work or samshed? If it just doesn't work check wiring before replacing.
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 8:04 am:   

Actually, I think it was both. An electrical gauge in the dash and a mechanical gauge in the engine compartment. Jack
Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 9:37 am:   

I hadn't thought of the rear one, don't have one on my bus.
christopher l cole sr. (Muziklvr)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 12:17 pm:   

i guess what im askin is where would be the "ideal"place to install the sending unit for the new electric water temp gauge. is there a specific place on the block? do i just mount in line before or after tstat????
Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 1:14 pm:   

where the old one was, screws right in.
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 5:30 pm:   

Usually, there are a couple threaded (plugged) holes in the thermostat housing. Jack
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 6:33 am:   

One fun part of electric gauges is the reading will change with the coach voltage,


So if you know the usual cruising temp and oil pressure , seeing a major change , oil pressure drop , temp climb , it could just be the V reg heading south . So stop and feel the batteries before you boil them out!Don't ask,

FF
Dallas Farnworth (Dallas)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 8:57 am:   

Whoa Fred! You just answered a question I've had for years on my electric temp gauge.
I can drive the bus for about 2 hours and the gauge will stay at 180°. After that it slowly climbs to 240°..... Scary! I stop, run to the rear and the mechanical gauge is right on 170-180°.
I've always wondered why and how it did that, now I am pretty sure I know! Thanks To Fast Fred, Here He is to Save the Day!
Tom Christman (Tchristman)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:14 am:   

I've seen some buses that have complete mechanical gauges in the engine compartment, or for that matter, you could setup a small space under the bed for a gauge cluster then have a video camera to watch the gauges at the dash. I know Yachts do this instead of having many different gauges at each steering station. Good Luck, TomC
Don Evans (Doninwa)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 11:31 am:   

Someone along the way pointed out that a DD has two thermostats and two temperature gauges could 'head' off a problem.

When I get around to updating my dash I think there will be two temp gauges if I can get those old plugs out of the housing.

Don 4107
George M. Todd (George_todd)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 9:37 pm:   

The sending unit(s) must be on the "engine" side of the thermostat itself. Otherwise you will never know when a thermostat sticks shut and the engine is overheating.
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Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 8:58 am:   

Good advice, George,
I didin't even think about mentioning that. Maybe other models are different, but on our 8V71, all of the threaded (and plugged) holes on the thermostat housings are on the engine side.
Along this same line, I have noticed that my right cylinder head is always about 5 degrees hotter than the left. Everyone else I have talked to that have dual temperature gauges has reported the same observation. The only thing we have been able to come up with is that the water pump is located on the left side of the engine, so that side gets water first? Jack

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