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Mike Stabler (Docdezl) (64.255.109.213)

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Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 7:39 pm:   

So I'm thinking no harm no foul. Water from lavatory,shower and, kitchen sink (ONLY) into 10 gal. holding tank with a 1/4 in. ball valve that runs to hose bib conector in front of left rear duals.
Hook up a soaker hose when parked, drools out 1/2 gal.per.hr. with 3 ft. drop. Green grass when we leave? 2 in. dump line into black tank if parked on concrete at Oskosh!

smoke,rattle&,stink.....docdezl
Arthur (24.62.228.193)

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Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 7:52 pm:   

Not a bad idea but very illegal in most states if not all. It is considered a "health hazard" and if caught carries substantial fines even in tax free "live free or die" New Hampshire.

Federal campgrounds have their own rules about this too and can fine you if caught dumping and grey water or at least kick you out.
mrjimmystewart (68.105.105.16)

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Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 11:50 pm:   

Not to mention hair and other small chunks of unmentionables that may tend to plug up the soaker hose.
Steven Gibbs (12.148.43.7)

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Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 8:00 am:   

Mike,

There are many places that you can "get away" with letting grey water run (my father-in-laws back lot, for instance). However, many places now are very strict about it.

Build a separate system with at least 35-40 gallons of capacity and then you will also be able to use the grey water to flush out your black dump hose. Then you will have the option to hold or release, as appropriate.

Years ago we used to poke small holes in the bottom of the bucket that was required to catch grey water. You were supposed to take the bucket to the dry well found near the bathhouse. Even though everyone seemed to have a bucket, I never saw anyone emptying one at the designated location.

I have never thought of the soaker hose, I have always used a washer supply hose connected to the special cap that has a hose fitting on it tucked under the rear axle out of sight.

Mrjimmystewart is right that bits of food and chunks of grease will eventually plug the hose.

FWIW
Steve G
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Gary Carter (68.26.239.113)

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Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:46 pm:   

Actually the black tank is more friendly to the enviroment than the gray. After all it is full of nutrients.
JohnC (12.106.199.241)

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Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 9:24 pm:   

Out of sight out of mind. Whats wrong with this picture? As long as you put the chemicals 12-16 inches below mother earths surface (typical septic system) its ok. Also, if you install a water filter, you can pump it all over the lawn or golf course and then throw the used filter into the local dump. Go figure!
FAST FRED (209.26.115.230)

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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 5:27 am:   

"As long as you put the chemicals 12-16 inches below mother earths surface (typical septic system) its ok"

Not really , the septic tank does a large job of eating all the food and many of the pathogens die in the tank.

A septic tank has a barrier inside so ONLY smelly water gets out , never solids.

Then the Earths bacteria eat the Effluent as it leaves the septic field , usually with in 4 ft .

The Black waste may smell a bit more than the Greay , but it has less diseases .

Grey on the ground is a No No for very good reasons.

Consider urine IS sterile , spit from brushing your teeth could pass on dozens of diseases.

FAST FRED
JohnC (12.106.199.175)

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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 9:56 am:   

Good point Fred, but the normal septic system breaks down solids not chemicals as I was referring to, and in many locales people still spit on the ground. You are right of course, I just sometimes get tired of the "politically correct" world we live. If, and when, I drain my gray water, it is from the shower only and it's very easy to preclude urine release. On numerous occasions I have parked in primitive Forest Service campgrounds, where RV gray water drainage is prohibited and watch tent campers bathe in the stream and wash their dishes. I still believe in using the common sense approach, if its forbidden don't do it, if its allowed, don't use harsh chemicals (liquid plumber etc), and use a strainer to isolate food particles. I also avoid doing it in places where it pools, eg., wet or non-porous ground, there are nearby campers, etc. Quartzite is a classic example of where gray water can be safely drained if common sense is used.

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