| Author | Message | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 339 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
my webasto at 3500 is smoking and sputtering, i just installed her and it took a while for her to start up. she will run but she sputters then shuts down....any ideas? btw i got the unit for $257.50 with a bad motor. webastards wanted $650 for a new one.i told them to pound sand. so i called buhler motor who made the motor for webasto. i was able to get the exact same motor for $64 it has a 1 inch long shaft instead of a 2 incher but it worked out fine. | ||
| steve wardwell (Steve_wardwell)
Registered Member Username: Steve_wardwell Post Number: 78 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 75.203.156.160  Rating: N/A |
bad tip,fuel pump,burnt out inside baffles,clogged exaust, improper electrode spaceing,intermitant coil,bad brain dirty eye.... | ||
| steve wardwell (Steve_wardwell)
Registered Member Username: Steve_wardwell Post Number: 79 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 75.203.156.160 Rating: N/A |
I had a bad tip destroy the inside baffles once,the last one I helped with was a intermitant coil | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 341 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
it almost seems flooded but when i remove the fuel line all i get are a few drops at a time and no pressure | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 342 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
well i called webasto and they had me take her apart,it is the s/s atomizer mesh which is only available for $225 what a rip off $225 for $5 worth of mesh the size of a silver dollar. if anyone needs brand new webasto parts i have 14942d 87748a 33089a 87277a 87281a all for sale or trade for 67955a | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 343 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
all those parts are still in the package. i bought them on e bay just for problems like this. | ||
| steve wardwell (Steve_wardwell)
Registered Member Username: Steve_wardwell Post Number: 80 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 75.202.25.198 Rating: N/A |
do you have a sychematic for this unit ? Have you set the electrodes properly using the jig? then clean the eye and ck to be sure the eye is good. Tips are about $20 and the best place to start.....If the brain isn't sure you have ignition it will stop the fuel flow in about 10 secs and go into a cool down/clean out cycle. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 344 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
the mesh was all clogged up, in fact i started scraping it away thinking it was crud.therefore i need a new piece. would of been nice of webasto to warn me that there was an expensive mesh there. | ||
| Ralph Peters (Ralph7)
Registered Member Username: Ralph7 Post Number: 141 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 75.195.226.97 Rating: N/A |
Thomas I have one also but it is the small one. NO it does not use high pressure, yes parts are ultra high, that motor has a 3000 hour life I'm told by Webasto. Also my mesh is junk and they want 300 Plus. I think the Air Top units are way over rated/!!!!. Although personell were helpfull. Maybe someday I may try to repair mine. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 345 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
you can heat the mesh with a torch[propane] for a few seconds that will clean her up the motor is available for $64 for the same motor from http://www.buehlermotor.com/webpage/ywbase.nsf/CurrentBaseLink/N272JA6K485KSTREN | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 1950 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
I think Webastos are nice, but there initial insane price and exorbitant parts prices make them something I'll have to think long and hard about going to them. | ||
| steve wardwell (Steve_wardwell)
Registered Member Username: Steve_wardwell Post Number: 81 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 75.202.25.198 Rating: N/A |
For the prices they charge for parts alone they could just give us the units free and suck our blood for the rest of our lives. The phone co/power co do it... I musta had $ once | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1371 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.211.62.119  Rating: N/A |
Several years ago...6-8, perhaps, I purchased a 2010 from Ronthebusnut...less than a grand, AIR....spent some time cleaning, some few bucks on a part or three and the unit works fine, as we speak. Most of my inquiry for information and parts was thru Vehicle Systems in CO...courtesy David Haynes, who is no longer there (sad...lay off last year) and AIR, an outfit in Washington did a "rebuild" for me of the control box. Some Marine outfit. Fair price and timely done. This is fine equipment and if well taken care of...they have a maintenance schedule, printed... it should serve well and last. Also lots of DYI literature...complete!! From what you paid for the unit, I'd say you did very well, so far. Maintaining, far as I am concerned, is the key! If I had to do away with mine today, it would have been well worth what I have in in...probably about $1200+-. No regrets. All in the eyes...thinking...opinion of the beholder, I suppose. FWIW RCB | ||
| steve wardwell (Steve_wardwell)
Registered Member Username: Steve_wardwell Post Number: 82 Registered: 2-2010 Posted From: 75.202.25.198 Rating: N/A |
In 1997 i paid 4500 for a straght wabasco unit and all the fixens for boat heat in ct...new stuff ..I would do it again...we were there for 8 years and happy aboard....I don't mind paying to play, we're on our second unit.older now and $ is harder to come by thats all....I have no regrets whatsoever ps all water units | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 442 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
Proheat is the "other". The local dealer sells both, but told me that the Proheat outsells the webasto by a ratio of ten to one. Joe. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 347 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
i had it working for awhile and the heat was like an oven....i almost couldn't leave my hand in front of it. | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1372 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.211.78.225 Rating: N/A |
I had looked into Pro-heat, but as I recall, they had "gone out of business" or some such at the time...at any rate, "no longer available". Could be wrong about that, I suppose. Things "change" as one gets older.....  Dave Galey talked about that unit in his book. RCB On second thought ('scuse me, folks, but I told you so...) I believe it was a Primus...  (Message edited by Chuckllb on August 27, 2010) | ||
| david anderson (Davidanderson)
Registered Member Username: Davidanderson Post Number: 260 Registered: 2-2004 Posted From: 69.153.67.228 Rating: N/A |
I'm curious. I have a 2010. What is a 3500? David | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 348 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
an air heater not a water/hydronic heater, mine now is not smoking anymore but it sounds like it is starved for fuel... | ||
| Ralph Peters (Ralph7)
Registered Member Username: Ralph7 Post Number: 142 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 75.206.45.172 Rating: N/A |
Tom, Webasto says use only the fuel filter that has the metal inside not a paper filter. The paper filters can allow minute pieces and they clog the nozzle. If it sounds starving, how close to the fuel supply is the pump? My Air Top pump was close to the supply. Also my line is clear so I can see if air is in the fuel. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 349 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 74.76.246.165 Rating: N/A |
i am 5 or6 feet away and the pump is 6 inches above the 24 inch tall tank.i took out the paper filter and will get a metal one tomorrow, i dose run for a few min then stops sometimes the clicks are 1 per second and sometimes they are every 5 or 10 seconds. | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1373 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.211.78.225 Rating: N/A |
Thanx for asking that David....the more I thought about it the more I wondered...???? Matter of fact, can't imagine a Webasto that does not include "water"...........My,the times....they are a'changin'....?? RCB | ||
| Ralph Peters (Ralph7)
Registered Member Username: Ralph7 Post Number: 143 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 75.206.45.172 Rating: N/A |
The metal filter is inside the plastic housing, it looks like the old GM filter that is on the carb inlet. Have you ever seen one, or look at a fuel oil furnace nozzle, the back end has same type of filter. And yes my fuel pump acted the same, I found a way to reset (get it to pressure) without letting it fire lean and code off, do not remember anymore. |