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C. K.. Sparks (Kozycade)
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 4:41 pm:   

I'm a gluten for punishment and possibly adding to the fleet once more. I am trying to save a MCI MC7 Challenger from the crusher if the deal can be made at reasonable pricing. Anyone know here that is a heavy hauler in or near WI that can cut a deal on a return trip to transport it to Va. Bus is non drivable due to tire tread, non start, air rail problems and more. To many issues for me to take the service truck and fix on site. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Cade

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Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 4:50 pm:   

Sorry to not be able to help but the going rate around here is $2/mile (total mileage). So if the tow truck goes 250 miles there and 250 back, it's 500 miles and $1000. I'm guessing you're not going to call that "reasonable pricing" and I don't have any ideas on how to do anything else.
John & Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 5:50 pm:   

Hey Cade,
When faced with a similar situation (I live in WI broke down bus was in ND), I called the Freightliner dealer in that town and found a local mechanic who was willing to work on his own time for cash. I ordered and shipped the new radiator and paid him to install, change oil, fix air leaks and lights and pretty much have it ready to roll when we went out. I towed a car dolly with my van, loaded it on behind the bus and brought everything home. All told a fun adventure and a lot less than it would have cost to hire it hauled. Just another way to "skin a cat".

John
C. K.. Sparks (Kozycade)
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 6:20 pm:   

Bruce, thanks for your comment. The going rate in this are is $6.50 to $7.25 a loaded mile. No its not reasonable pricing for salvage buses with this market being cut in half for parts. Kind of makes it a deal breaker when you can hold out for a driver. I just don’t want to see the baby crushed.

John- Thank you for your comment as well which is a good idea but at labor rates for mobile service this could get expensive also. I seem to be a collector of the Challenger's as of late. John what part of WI are you in? The bus is above Madison North on 10 so maybe someone might chime in here and be able to take a look at it for me.

Another great point I hadn't thought of is that a very good friend of mine that's also a busnut pointed out was to take another bus and some tools and a couple of friends along for a road trip and see if we could get it up and going and then use my Coachnet insurance if needed to get it home or fixed.

Any takers LOL
PAUL Blazier (Busn_gramps)
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 7:31 pm:   

Hi Cade, is this bus just East of Osseo on US 10?
Paul
C. K.. Sparks (Kozycade)
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 8:28 pm:   

Hey Paul, Yes that is the jewel so I take it that you know something about it. Please enlighten me if you do.

Cade
John & Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:31 pm:   

Hey Cade,
I stopped and looked at that bus over a year ago. We had a MC-5C that needed converting and we thought maybe we would be in the market for one alreay finished. It didn't look too bad, but the guy selling it couldn't give me any idea about how many miles since any work had been done or anything. At the time he said he was selling it for someone else. I go past it almost every week on my way up to the twin cities. I haven't stopped for over a year, but it was not a profesional conversion and without any knowledge of the mechanics of it we passed on it.
Let me know if you need some more info. BTW that guy that was the owner of a big diesel shop next door, so if they can't fix it I don't know if I would want to mess with it.

John
Dave Walker (Chrome_dome)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 1:25 am:   

MC 7 Challenger or is it a Cruiser. I have a MC 5 Challenger. I may be wrong but I thought 7 were only Cruisers?

Just a question, straighten me out here

Dave
Bob Caddel (Bcaddel)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 9:56 am:   

I am no expert but our 1971 MCI-7 dataplate states it is a Challenger. I wonder what the differance is in a Cruiser and a Challenger.

Bob
C. K.. Sparks (Kozycade)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:42 am:   

Paul & John- Correction! That's not the bus. I was in err. The one you guys are referring to I think is one that has been sitting there for quite some time as a overpriced conversion. The one I am referring to is way further North and a stripped shell except for the restroom and rear seat and a PO had started adding old rooftop Coleman's it appears and stopped for whatever reason. Sorry

John- Thanks for the information. I would like to talk to you if possible. My number is on the profile or I can call you. Just let me know.

Dave- You are only half wrong. LOL ( See below) The MC5 & MC7 are both Challengers and the MC7 actually came into the market from production before the MC6 hit the scene by a few months.

Bob- The difference in the MC7 Challenger & THe MC7 Supercrusier which had very subtle differences was the Challenger was sold for long haul Highway use and the Supercrusier was sold for Intercity use which had the viewing windows along the length of the bus. ( MC7 Intercity Crusier was the actual identifier by work order)

Edited by KozyCade for spelling errors

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Bob Caddel (Bcaddel)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:55 am:   

Thanks Cade, Good information

I had been informed that our bus was not a intercity bus and was indeed a Greyhound bus, but I never new that that highway use was what Challenger meant.

Hope you find someway to get this one back to your place at something close to a reasonable price, it is always a shame to hear about one going to the crusher.

Thanks again for the email yesterday on the battery door, please do let me know or point them in my direction if you do hear of someone with an extra battery door for our 7.

Bob
C. K.. Sparks (Kozycade)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:31 pm:   

Bob- Your quite welcome. I sent you another email which I got a notice from postmaster@hotmail.com saying This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.
Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. bcaddel@thealamo.com

Bob...get your foot out of the throttle and slow that 7 down so your email can catch up with you.

Cade
Bob Caddel (Bcaddel)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:49 pm:   

We obviously must have been going down hill if we were outrunning our email :-)

I did receive 2 emails yesterday from you so I think it must have caught up with us. My responce to the last email was that the prices all seemed to be appropriate if you did ever run into a battery door we would love to purchase it. I put in a 15.5 in X 30 in sheet of Stainless Steel to cover the hole and it looks kind of OK but we really want to find an actual mci 7 battery door so it will look right.
Dave Walker (Chrome_dome)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 10:14 pm:   

Bob;

Thanks for the information.
I was wondering because ours in a MC5C Saudi. The Badge on the front under the windshield just says MCI. On the inside of the breaker box it has a metal printed plate that says MC5C Challenger and all the tire and wheel info too.

Now I know that some were brought over for the Greyhound contract in 79 but were also partners with Aramco while there but were returned to the states and Canada.

Some were made in London from what it said on Angel fire site. Couldn't find our exact number there but was close to ours and looked like ours may have been made there also.

I know it was run as Greyhound because on top where some paint has lifted I can see the Red white and Blue even though someone re-painted it all white on the roof.

It also has the double roof of course and the bigger radiators, Had the back door but has since been fix and paneled over.

I know it is a 6v-71 N but don't know where the number is for the transmission. I was told it was a H740 but some say it should be in the 600's automatic. Originally it was a Standard because it has the covered hole up front from the old shifter I noticed when doing the carpet up there.

I was told It was converted and used by a race team in 1989 to haul a 20 foot tool trailer to races, Then sold to the chief mechanic at a local bus company and he had it for 6 years then got a fairly new S&S and sold it to me.

I am almost finished re converting it again. So guess just picking your knowledge.

Thanks Dave

(Message edited by Chrome dome on September 15, 2010)

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