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thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   

out to have the bus soda blasted and on the way down found i had no headlights. there is voltage to the switches but no power to the lights. also after the soda blasting which took 2 days and i had to camp out on the property the bus would not start.seems with 1/4 tank of fuel you cant park on an angle. we took off the air filter which was a total bitch to do,thinking we may of got some soda in the intake but she was clean as a whistle. the process one of the guys broke the brass line to my algee removing device in the fuel line... our next step was a trip to lowes for an easy out and a piece of pipe. we got it all back together and she still would not start. we then decided to add 10 gallons of fuel, and with a little priming of the filters we were off.
bus looks good but will need a lot of polish to shine like i want...
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:48 pm:   

Don't forget to use that camera, we all want to know what it looks like!
L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 6:43 am:   

Yeah, Thomas...

We need pics. I'd also like to know what it cost you, how much of the bus you did for the cost, and how the finish looked when you were done blasting. I've thought about chemical stripping the lower portion of my '04 (below the belt line...it's painted to look like aluminum, and doesn't look as nice as the pic) and restore it to a nice aliminum finish. I head soda blasting will not pit the finish, right?? Not sure of the chemicals, or what to even use if I go that route.

Thanks Thomas...
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 6:54 am:   

it is just baking soda and it will not pit..took all the paint off from top to bottom for $130 per hour cash $150 check. in total i paid $1040
looks good but i made an order for 1 pound of nuvite polish and it will shine when i am done. nuvite is supposed to be the best, at $50 a pound it sure as heck ought to be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVRzG5tp7B0&feature=related
marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 8:58 am:   

After reviewing the video of polishing, I am appauld at how purty it looks. I can get jealous real quick too. Tom when you get your coach looking like you want it, YOU BETTER be prepared to go in business.LOL, Don't forget all the friends you have here and can take many tours and have FREE parking,food and many other benefits of Helping other busnuts. LOL> Just funning of course but, it may be a thought??? As you know you are welcome here anytime?

gomer
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 9:12 am:   

i hope it looks as good as they say.
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 12:37 pm:   

http://flocks.shutterfly.com/#n_15
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 12:57 pm:   

Your 4106 really looks Soda Clean now!
Noticed you engine access-side door is hinged 90 degrees to what mine is....PO or OEM..?
Have you found a cheap source for Elbow -Grease yet?
THANKS for posting the Pics!
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 3:18 pm:   

hinged 90 degrees? help me out what are you saying?
tony denny (Papatony)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 4:15 pm:   

There is a chemical stripper for alum. and fiber glass it is called Captain Lees Spra-Strip they were out of Nashville Tn.You can find it thru Corvette repair shops.The best I've saw and will not harm the alum.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 7:12 pm:   

cycle your dimmer switch several times. Sometimes they will cause this from inactivity.
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 11:03 pm:   

what dimmer switch? all i have is a switch for low and high beams.
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 2:17 am:   

Mine is hinged across the top, OEM.
yours seems to have a side or vertical hinge on the rearmost door, curb side.
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 6:19 am:   

my door always sticks.... must of been from the p/o
marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 8:05 am:   

Tom on all the 04,06.etc the dimmer switch was on the floor[left side of driver] just in the area of the horn button[air]. Evidently the PO has taken that out and put in a switch which is probably not heavy enough to handle the load like a normal dimmer switch. Look under the drivers compartment and look for some wires going to the lights as well as the switch you are speaking of. There are sometimes relays there also and some breakers mounted on the front of the compartment wall up near the floor.
Jack on gm coaches the tranny door is hinged from the side,the radiator door is hinged from the top. on my 4104 and 4905 the are hinged from the side with a latch between the tailgate and the door. Most have been altered tho.

Gomer
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 10:18 am:   

i have voltage to the switches and all breakers. i think i just might rewire the lights if i cant find the problem. the bus had no floor horn as the p/o's had no use of their legs and relied on hand controls...
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 11:27 am:   

My Tranny door is original, with the rod support & receiver & it lifts to open, & when it's open
.....it's just the perfect forehead HAMMER when coming around from the back to the side of the bus....
I have a "REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT" flag attached to it to avoid another "wake-up" experience.
Pesky Buses, always lookin for a way to play trix on their owners!
RJ Long (Rjlong)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 8:18 pm:   

Marvin, Jack, Thomas and others -

The location of the hinge for the transmission access door became an option on the 4106 shortly after production started in 1961.

It was one of those rare options where GM actually listened to their customers! (If only they'd done so with the '06 OEM dashboard!)

My '64 4106 had the transmission door hinged on the front side, whereas a friend's '63 '06 has it hinged on the top. His coach came from TX originally, mine from Central CA. Neither were 'Hounds or Trailways while they were in revenue service.

The plot thickens!

FWIW & HTH. . .

:-)
Tom Phillips (Fortyniner)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 8:39 pm:   

Thomas, do you have the maintenance manual? It has the wiring diagrams and circuit breaker locations. On the 4106 all headlights are fed by a single breaker in the drivers wiring panel. I believe the master switch feeds the breaker which then goes to the hi/lo switch and on to headlights.

Hope that helps.

Tom P.
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 9:49 pm:   

Hi, Tom and Thomas.

I think that you will find that the headlights on the 4106 will turn on with the master switch in the off position.

The power for the headlights comes from a single toggle switch on the panel to the left of the driver.

At least, that's the way ours is, and I believe that it is original.

For what it's worth.

Tom Caffrey
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 1:04 am:   

Jack Fids - Are you sure you're not really "Ron White" - You're one funny ****er - thanks for continuously making me laugh - FWIW
thomas flocks (Taflocks)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 6:51 am:   

mine has the single switch but no power to the lights,no matter what i do.
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 1:10 pm:   

Don't call me Tater Salad, or late for supper
don't call me funny or Mr. Serious bust-er-upper
don't call me Happy, Sneezy or Doc
or Fast Fred, Ace or Thomas Flock(s)
I write too much & little is serious
and I have a tendency
to make Les furious
Ron White is funny when he talks
ButHE's never been busted driving
HIS '06 on the sidewalks...!


....and FWIW...
you CAN fix Stupid...
one just needs a larger hammer & a better aim!
marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 1:18 pm:   

IAN IAN WHERE ARE YOU??
CHESSIE WHERE ARE YOU??
Somebody Pleas help this man, He is running way too loose. LOL

gomer
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 1:36 pm:   

I tightened my lug nutz to 15 inch lbs.
with a torque wrench
whatta ya mean running too loose...?

oh & BTW....when you yell for a Canadian for help
as an American
the best you can expect is
a cold Molson and an ..eh?
Dallas Farnworth (Dallas)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 1:52 pm:   

Eh?
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 2:06 pm:   

OK....maybe 2 eh?'s if the guy is a NORTHERN Canadian.
les marston (Les_marston)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 2:38 pm:   

Jack
even here the ice gets thin.
signed
Not so furious
Les
Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 2:52 pm:   

As a descendant of of a Canadian who became an "Illegal Alien" when he crossed into the USA w/o any papers to fight the Brits,
I claim immunity !
Besides that, if I had a functional brain would I own a Bus and be posting here?

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