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Brian Skinner (24.191.35.118)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 11:27 am: | |
Just bought NJ Eagle 20 with air start. Anyone know how to switch to electric? |
Steve Fessenden (63.27.89.15)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 1:46 pm: | |
How does the air start work. I always thought it would be a good idea. A 12 volt air compressor could give the reserve starting power if the air leaks down. A 110 volt compressor would be handy to, not to mention getting a boost from another truck or bus or service vehicle.
Steve Fessenden |
Richard (192.55.114.127)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 9:29 pm: | |
Air starters work GREAT high speed at 120 psi
about 3or4 seconds You should be started.
Low on air hook the glad-hands to another truck and use his air compresser.
Now the problem NOISEEEEEEEEEEEE
A very high pitched LOUD noise.
In the late 50's or early 60's I think it was WATSON BRO. Trucking out of Denver ( that was 40
years ago)built a new terminal in K.C.Mo. they had to move because of the noise in a residential area.
Don't Park next to Me.
Richard |
R Johnstone (Chilebrew) (164.64.0.18)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 12:05 am: | |
Brian, tried to e-mail you at address given. "Undeliverable"
Please let me know how I can get in touch with you.
By the way, mufflers for air starters are available.
R. Johnstone |
Tony Fones (Chapter7) (159.49.254.12)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 11:31 am: | |
I also bought the NJ Eagle 20. The airstart cranks it up in a hurry! I spent an hour looking for leaks in the system before the 3.6k mile trip.
Changed both service port check valves, removed drain valve and plugged the drain hole. It will hold enough air for a start for three weeks. If converted to electric, it will not be anytime soon. The deciding factor will be room in the aft bay, if the air tank will work into my plans or better placement of the tank can be found I'll keep it! Add a back-up compressor as posted above.
Converting to electric should not be a big problem. You will need starter, wire and solenoid. Bring power from the batteries to the solenoid to the starter. Take the existing wire going to the airstart solenoid next to the starter and route to the electric solenoid this would allow both for and aft start buttons to remain in place.
Information you'll need to obtain:
- System voltage to know what starter to get.
- Current draw of starter to know what wires and solenoid to get.
My wife will not let me go and play with the bus yet! Until the house is completed! This was just one of the agreements of purchase.
I believe the system is 24v, the dash, sign etc. must go through something like the Sure Power since they are all 12v.
YES! The airstarter has a muffler, not loud! Just different.
tf |
PrevostBus3406 (152.163.213.189)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 10:26 pm: | |
I think the air start sounds cool as with jakes. Most trucks I have worked on has a separate tank just for the starter and most air start trucks are used for tanker service to prevent sparks(which happens in electric starters everytime you hit the button) due to risk of explosion from vapors. |
Steve Fessenden (63.27.88.23)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2001 - 12:36 pm: | |
I have seen a tire on a 20 inch wheel hand pumped up, so I guess if you have an air starter you have a hand start back up too. Just get a manual pump and pump and pump and pump till the tank is up to pressure. Might be nice for a boondocking back up. SF |
Clarke Echols (216.17.134.50)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2001 - 7:46 pm: | |
My Neoplan has a Series 50 Detroit with air starter. As long as it took to pump that tank with an external compressor to get it to 100 psi, and as long as it takes the bus compressor to air it up, I don't think you'll ever want to get stuck with a hand pump unless you want a real MARATHON!!!
This starter has a muffler of sorts on the outlet, so it isn't terribly noisy -- not nearly as loud as the engine when it starts. :-)
It definitely spins the engine, but one shot (assuming the engine starts right up) takes the air tank from 130 psi down to 70 or less VERY QUICKLY. When you hit the starter switch, you don't turn it loose until the engine is running or you're out of air.
Clarke |