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Gary Eugene Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 216.67.52.115
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 2:51 am: | |
Hi I have A 1969 mci mc-6 conversion with 8v92 and 740 auto. This is a new conversion that started in 2001 and finished in 2009. Anyway I had a guy ask me today if I would sell it, and if so how much? I got this bus this year as an inheritance so I have no idea what to tell him. I searched the net and couldn't find anything other than there were only 100 built. Any idea would be appreciated. (Message edited by gdude on December 10, 2010) |
Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)
Registered Member Username: Kyle4501
Post Number: 619 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 65.23.106.193

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 10:59 am: | |
Usually, paint & polish are the most important things when selling - the higher the shine, the higher the price. Oh yeah, sometimes, the quality of the conversion work matters too. Pictures would help us give you an idea as to where the price should be. . . . Good Luck! |
les marston (Les_marston)
Registered Member Username: Les_marston
Post Number: 202 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 68.151.225.213

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 11:09 am: | |
Gary It won't be much of an answer but as with most things it is worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it. The value is so dependent on what is in the unit, what shape the running gear is in and what mood the buyer is in that to say Your coach is worth????? hard to say. I can tell you that the MC6 was the first coach that MCI made that was 102 inches wide. They are a very well built chassis and have a very unique look to them that is valued by a few people who want a coach conversion. This is not a unit that will have a large number of people bidding on but will draw the attention of those who are into that type of coach. Because it came as a very limited production run, you wont have a lot to go on for pricing on like coaches. Saying that I can tell you that in the last few years the value on coach conversions has drastically decreased due to the economy and the cost of owning such a unit. As anyone on any conversion board will tell you. Don't expect to do a conversion and make money on it. Most people do coach conversions because they like the way a coach rides, looks, lasts etc. It is most often a labor of love or as a hobby not to make money. You must have known the person you inherited the coach from and so must have known what motivated them to do the coach. Take a look at what that person put in to the coach, decide in your own mind what you want and will be happy getting for it and ask that price.... Or keep it for your own enjoyment. |
Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas
Post Number: 205 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 75.91.196.40

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 12:22 pm: | |
If you live in Homer, AK, I would bid $12.38 for it. If you live in New York City, New York.. I would bid $3 at most, (Depends on the quality of the graffiti). If you live in Hearne, Tx. I would bid $3K on it. It all has to do with distance, quality of conversion, condition of the chassis and body, tires, mechanicals, and as Les mentioned, attitude at the time. Good luck with the sale, I need a newer larger bus, but can't afford anything more than I've already listed... unless you wait until payday, then I can $12.52/ $2.75/ $3100 respectively. On another note, I think there are some bus enthusiasts in your neck of the woods who could help you figure out a ball park figure. Look here and on the other board and be sure to give your location. |
Gary Eugene Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 209.193.50.195
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 1:25 pm: | |
Here are a few pics of the bus, this is no typical conversion there were no dollars spared in putting it together. I have a dated photo album of each stage of the build and they replaced all the skins with all new stainless All mechanics are new including steering box and linkages. Interior is solid teak and completely spray foamed. This was John Chandlers dream and he passed just after completion so it has had very little use. Just didn't know if this would be priced similar conversions of later model buses because coming from a car world only 100 made would be very valuable. I just drove this up here to Alaska from Idaho this summer and it drove like a dream!
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Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 209.193.50.195

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 1:37 pm: | |
not sure what I did wrong but here are the 2 that got cut off earlier.
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Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas
Post Number: 206 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 75.91.196.40

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 1:45 pm: | |
Sharp looking coach Gary! I wish I was in a better position to help you because the MCI6 and 7's have a special place for me. Where in Idaho were you? Maye w have some mutual friends and, probably relatives. After all, I am from Idaho, where men are men and sheep get really nervous! Let's not talk about those unfortunate goat incidents our relatives had! It probably had to do with mixing the Old Crow and the Blitz beer! Just sayin'! If you happen to join the BNO facebook page, you could post photos of every angle, including the engine, transmission, top, bottom and they would be enlargeable. you could also use those photos when linking back after posting to the classifieds section. |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 209.193.50.195

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 3:01 pm: | |
My wife grew up in Grangeville, Cambridge and Nampa and a lot of her family is still in the Northern areas. I've seen those sheep looking really nervous lol was wondering what that was about. |
Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas
Post Number: 208 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 75.91.196.40

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 3:15 pm: | |
I was raised in Horseshoe end, Ashton, (Just west of Teton Park), lived in Moscow and spent a few years in Old Town, (Priest River). I also worked in Garden Valley, Emmett, Cascade, Salmon, Jerome, Twin, etc. My bosses, (Double Diamond Ranches) had a lot of holdings in different places. I also worked in Alaska for a couple of years back in the 70's. Wish I was in either place rather than here, LOL! |
macgyver (91flyer)
Registered Member Username: 91flyer
Post Number: 603 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 173.217.47.28

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 3:47 pm: | |
Best thing you could do is get it appraised... Then, with this economy, figure someone will be willing to pay 50% of that. Appraisals are always rather high in my opinion anyway though... But uh... that's a gorgeous bus... Why ever would you sell it? It would take some serious $$ to make another one like it I think. -Mac |
Len Silva (Lsilva)
Registered Member Username: Lsilva
Post Number: 429 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 72.187.35.208

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 3:51 pm: | |
Nice looking coach. The value depends on year, condition, and level of conversion. The rarity of a particular model will have very little impact on it's value. |
Laryn Christley (Barn_owl)
Registered Member Username: Barn_owl
Post Number: 676 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 153.2.246.32

Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 7:35 pm: | |
There has been some serious money dropped into that coach. Nicer than most. Unlike cars, low production numbers can hurt more than help with a bus if you plan to actually use it. It can be hard enough to get parts for a common vintage bus, much less for one of only 100 built. Nevertheless, since that is not the normal run of the mill conversion, I think it will be very difficult to accurately price it. I would agree that ultimately the market would determine it. Don’t get you hopes to high, as nice as it is, nothing is selling. |
Dave Walker (Chrome_dome)
Registered Member Username: Chrome_dome
Post Number: 142 Registered: 3-2010 Posted From: 67.174.144.159

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 9:36 pm: | |
Ok; I will go first. I will give you $10.00 but only if you will deliver it to California!!! All seriousness aside; How about having an auction for the guys on the boards. Everyone that wants it can put in a no refund deposit of set price (by owner 50, 100 or ??? who keeps all)to hold their place. Then draw a number down the road for the winner who will arrange delivery and pay for all expenses if they want it. You might make more that way. FWIW Dave |
Matthew J Rutkowski (Matt_rutkowski)
Registered Member Username: Matt_rutkowski
Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 98.235.157.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 10:26 pm: | |
If you come up with a price let me know I will buy it if its reasonable! my email add is highlandmotors@comcast.net |
Nellie Wilson (Vivianellie)
Registered Member Username: Vivianellie
Post Number: 457 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 66.87.2.99

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 11:13 pm: | |
Hey Gary, Nice inheritance. I second Mac, "Why would you ever sell it?" Wish mine looked half as good! But, lordy, way up in ALASKA? Why drive it up there if you want to sell it down here? But I already know the answer: Just couldn't resist ... right? I'm sure you'll sell it to the guy that prompted your post but, if you don't, send me an e-mail. Nellie Wilson |
George M. Todd (George_todd)
Registered Member Username: George_todd
Post Number: 1159 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 99.68.214.35
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 12:38 am: | |
Gary, Matt & I each own MC6s, and here's my take. Being one of a hundred made, and less still around means little demand for specific spare parts, which means no specific spare parts available at all. Just ask either of us! That's the bad news, as the brakes and running gear are mostly standard truck parts, and are easily available. Unfortunately no 2 cycle Detroits have been made for over 10 years, and some parts and oil are becoming ordered, instead of on the shelf. From the pictures, the obsolete wheels and tires have been replaced with aluminum wheels and standard tires, which is good. Some of the un-obtainable stainless skin has been replaced with what looks like MC8 or 9, which is still readily available. These buses were equipped with theater, or stadium seating, the floor under the first six rows slopes up, although the aisle is flat, front to back. Your bus has had the roof raised from the front to the middle, taking out the leaky plastic skylights. A step is visible in the bathroom area, which means the whole floor wasn't flattened, and if the rear roof wasn't raised, there is only about 5'10" of headroom in the center of the bed and bath, less near the sides. If the whole roof was raised, the bus will be a little over 12 feet high, before the roof airs, and satellite receiver. Has the original auxiliary drive been removed? (Air comp, fan pump, steering pump, and alt in the right rear corner, with the big belt in the bumper,) or are all the auxiliaries on the back of the engine? The diagonal residential range takes up a lot of space, and will rattle while traveling. So will the chandelier. To give you an educated guess on a price, we need to know a lot more information. Does it have a generator, and if so, how many KW? Inverter? and again how many KW? House batteries? Is the over the road air/heat still working? Driver's heat/air? Roof air, I think, how many and how big. Water tanks, again how many and how big. How big a propane tank? Shore power size? What kind and size of water heater? Space heat? Its going to be really tough to sell a bus in Alaska this time of year, so be sure you have antifreeze in everything, including the main heat, and the driver's defroster. Drain the house tanks and fixtures, or add potable antifreeze, and run all the faucets until it comes out. Make sure the sink trap, and the water heater have antifreeze in them. Don't forget the gen, if it has one. Please post some more pics of the open bays, and the back, etc. Send them to me via e mail if its easier, its in my profile, and I am interested also. Thanks, George |
David Evans (Dmd)
Registered Member Username: Dmd
Post Number: 531 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 24.46.196.121

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 12:47 am: | |
That is just dropjaw gorgeous! (the bus you old pervos!) the teak really sets it off. Bet its a hefty conversion. I say 75-120K or trade for smaller,older coach. |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 209.193.50.195

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 12:54 am: | |
Sorry guys! I just got back on here before bed and seen all the posts. The only reason I would even consider selling the bus is, we just picked up a 36' class a last year with a wheelchair lift. We have a child that is disabled and getting to big for my wife and I to pack. And I would hate to cut into the bus and install a lift. But we REALLY LOVE THE BUS!!! It's just hard to justify having two rv's in the yard. I am learning real quick that bus conversions aren't worth much. With the documents I have and what I can tell there is well over 200k in this bus. I probably couldn't even get 1/3 of that from what I gather. If my wife and I can agree on a price we will let everyone know. And if anyone wants a list of everything this has I will be glad to e-mail you. The list is very long so I would probably get in trouble listing here. It is very impressive. Just a couple of neat things I'll list. The seat behind the driver seat is on a hydraulic arm, with a flip of the switch it goes up, swings forward and sets down next to the driver. Also the door is electric opening and has timed entrance and stair lights. Thanks for all the help! Gary and Patty Seay |
George M. Todd (George_todd)
Registered Member Username: George_todd
Post Number: 1160 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 99.68.214.35
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 1:01 am: | |
Dave, It is indeed great looking, and I forgot to ask if it has Jake brake, or a leveling system. There are 30 year newer professionally converted Prevosts out there on another site, fully equipped with OTR air, and Webastos, big inverters, etc, for less than your estimate. Without more pictures, and info, $25K is more reasonable. Look at Pete's RTS that just sold, with all the equipment it has, for $29K. Granted it isn't an RTS, but it is winter in a poor economy. G |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 66.230.113.171

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 1:31 am: | |
Yes George it has a low hour 12.5kw gen set with smart gen that will automatically start it when the batteries get low. It has all new 8D batteries 3 large solar panels, 3 roof airs, 2 Inverters a 4000 watt Zantrex and a 2500 watt Trace the electronics are on the sign wave inverter. All the drivers heat does work. It does have Jake brakes and custom built levelers that will lift the bus 2 ft off the ground,In floor heat with 3 zones. Also comes with custom built 250 gal stainless steel water tank built in under the bed, 250 gallon sewage in right rear bay and 560 gallon auxiliary fuel in left rear bay. The other two forward bays are wide open for storage. 10 gallon elec/gas water heater with automatic ignition, digital water counter for water tank, satellite dish, cell antenna and booster, mirage electronic awnings, sleep number bed with remote control and splendid washer dryer combo, cedar lined closets and the list goes on and on. Like I said in the last post I would be more than happy to email a thorough list or even talk to somebody when we come up with a price, unless somebody makes me an offer I can't refuse |
macgyver (91flyer)
Registered Member Username: 91flyer
Post Number: 605 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 173.217.47.28

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 6:31 am: | |
Gary... Be realistic here... The bus is a *FAR* better choice than *ANY* production line Class A. It's stronger, built better, has more luxury in one axle than any Class A that I've ever seen... And you have a bus that's easy to find many parts for, pretty much anywhere in the world. As was said though, some parts are damn hard to find... But, buses are generally more reliable too, as long as you can keep up with the maintenance requirements of them... I won't lie, the maintenance is a bit higher than a stick 'n staples rig... But let me ask you this... What happens if you get into an accident? Will that stick 'n staple Class A hold up and not fly apart? I've personally seen the aftermath of what happens to a stick 'n staple motorcoach in a rollover... I saw one roll right in front of me... It flayed open like a fish. I have no idea if the occupants survived, but based on what I saw (unfortunately, I didn't have my camera with me at the time).... I'd hazard a guess they didn't survive. The rig was upside down and literally, all that was left was the frame. The rest of it looked like a bomb was set off.. pieces of it... EVERYWHERE. As for a wheel chair lift customization... While it won't be cheap, I'll hazard a guess that you can get it done out of the money you'd get for the Class A and still have money left over to do other things with... Depending on its condition, of course... If it's anything like your bus though... A motor home will fetch more than a bus will, simply because they were built on an assembly line and thousands of others exist just like it... Your bus is fairly unique. Stick with that... I don't know if you've been delving into the archives and what not... but I lost my 4905 in a fire last year... I'm now working to salvage a 1953 Flxible Visicoach... I'm unemployed... But I'm still trying... It's kindof a goal. For what I've already got into it, I could have bought a ready to go stick 'n staple rig and probably have been happy... But honestly? I keep coming back to watching that motorhome fly apart into tiny pieces when it rolled... And it makes me shudder... EVERY time. Your bus is highly customized. It looks as if it's had a roof raise on it, so interior height should be quite nice. It's well decked out in luxury components, and from the pictures... it all looks to be in excellent condition. If you're really intent on selling the bus... Then I'd recommend you wait for the economy to recover a bit more.... And sell in late spring or early summer next year. The winter is simply the WRONG time to try and sell *ANY* RV... unless it's a 4-wheeler or snow sled. If nothing else, as I said... think about the safety of a bus vs. a stick 'n staple rig... Look up accidents on youtube and google... See what fairs better... See which one you'd rather be in if the unthinkable happens. Buses are built for survivability of its occupants. Just my 2 cents... And, I really think your rig is just awesome... If I could afford it, I'd take it off your hands... but, being unemployed.... Well, that severely limits what I'm able to do. =( -Mac (Message edited by 91flyer on December 11, 2010) |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 66.230.113.152

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 2:03 pm: | |
WOW!! Mac that really sunk in deep, especially when you think of the precious cargo your hauling (wife and kids that is not the toys). We have thought about a few times, how well a class A would hold up and have seen a few after accidents ourselves, very scary. After driving this bus up from Idaho and spending an additional few weeks in it this summer we got back in the class A and realized how cheap they really are made. You start looking at all the cardboard and plastic surrounding you and think wow. As you well know you just lean on a wall and feels like you could push through it. We thought about trying to figure out how to put a lift in the bus months ago, but then thought it would ruin the value of the bus especially if it were a collector of some sort. Thanks to this site and other places we have learned that a runaway Prius is worth more than these buses. So we might just take and have some estimates done on installing a lift, count our pennies and see if we can afford to install it. Will also list more pics later and a more detailed list of everything it has if we wind up having to sale it. Mac I also looked at some pictures of your bus and home WOW how sad, hope you had insurance. I think I will take the bus and have it appraised and go from there on pricing and maybe wait for spring to see what happens. Thanks to you, this site and everyone else for all the insight, there is a lot of great Bus Nuts out there! If anyone would like to contact us our email is seayfam@acsalaska.net |
Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
Registered Member Username: Oonrahnjay
Post Number: 645 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 68.84.6.83

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 2:23 pm: | |
Gary, I was a little further from a Class A accident than Mac was but I was there within a minute of the time that the wheels quit rolling. The RV ran off the road to the right, clipped an overpass abutment, skidded across the two lanes of I-40, rolled over on its side and (once the weight of the "body" was gone) then the chassis fell back onto its wheels. "Retirement age" couple, both with bruises and scrapes that we could see but they went off in the ambulance to be checked out for things not apparent. The RV (a 33-35 footer) had the instrument panel and steering wheel sticking up in the air -- nothing of the "body" above that. The only thing on that vehicle that hadn't exploded were a few of the storage bays underneath. The rest of it looked like one of the evening news reports where they interview the guy who says "I was just out behind my trailer tryin to git the lawnmower to start an I heard this noise like a freight train an everbody's trailer in the whole park jiss blew apart". Thank goodness the couple weren't hurt (too badly) but I can't understand how/why they weren't turned to hamburger. For what you can sell the Class A for, you can put in a chairlift. And be creative, maybe you can find someone who has a lift in a bus that he needs out. No need to go to a custom shop and buy new equipment. |
RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong
Post Number: 1747 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.124.20

Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 2:32 pm: | |
Gary - You may, or may not, be aware that the Americans With Disabilities Act requirements now include wheelchair lifts for highway model buses. MCI & Prevost both install them, and usually in one of the baggage bays, as they're too wide for use at the front door, like a transit. MCI had a lift design in their early 102A3s that was like an elevator - roll up into the baggage bay, turn facing forward, and up you went to the main salon. Very slick, actually. Since you say that the front two bays are open, it's entirely possible that you could accomplish the same thing with this MC-6. Then you'd have the best of both worlds: A lift-equipped vehicle for your child, and the safety of a coach vs a "fiberglass & twigs" Class A. I vote for a "road trip" to MCI in Winnipeg come spring for a discussion with their engineering department! FWIW & HTH. . .
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Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 9 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 66.230.113.152

Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 3:08 pm: | |
This one is for Nellie one of my wife's favorite parts of the bus is the front |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 10 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 66.230.113.152

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 3:13 pm: | |
Thanks for the info RJ We are aware of the Americans with Disabilities Act requirements but was unsure who to contact for installation. In Alaska we are limited on vendors. |
les marston (Les_marston)
Registered Member Username: Les_marston
Post Number: 208 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 68.151.225.213

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 3:32 pm: | |
Gary We wanted a side door in our 102 D3 and was looking at the door off of the wheel chair lift. Someone sent me a video and the information on the MCI wheel chair lift for the 102 series of busses. I spent some time looking for it but can't find it but may have tossed it because the door was much bigger than we wanted. I think I might have got it from Gary at B&B coach in las vegas. He did the roof raise, re skin and extra door for us Structural modification is a major part of his business. Give him a call and ask if he can give you any ideas on how and how much it would cost. It won't cost much to call and could give you the information you need to make your decision. In the mean time I will keep looking for the video I got and if I find it I will e-mail it to you Good luck! I hope you get to keep the coach Les |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 11 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 66.230.113.152

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 4:56 pm: | |
Thanks Les I will look into that! Nellie I just checked out some of your music,really liked it. I see you wrote a song about going south, now maybe you should write one about going North lol.Don't know if you have ever been here but Homer,Alaska is a beautiful place Just ask Jewel she is from here as well. Jewel and Ty stopped by to meet our little girl Ashley, made her day. They are good people.
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Bill 340 (Bill_340)
Registered Member Username: Bill_340
Post Number: 129 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.202.43.81

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:02 pm: | |
They make Handicapped lifts for motorhomes it attaches next to the front door, you place the person on the lift, take the wheel chair inside, and then hit the button and the person is lifted up in the coach and placed back on the chair, There was one on a prevost in arcadia fl a few years ago at the rally. he made his from a electric jack from a truck camper, Have seen lots of regular motorhomes with them , mounted about the same. |
Bill 340 (Bill_340)
Registered Member Username: Bill_340
Post Number: 130 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.202.43.81

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:10 pm: | |
Here is another Idea theese are done in florida, lakeland area. not cheap I am sure but lots of lifts out there, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dox7mTbkty8 .use searchalot.com seems to be the best search engine out there and its free, searches all other sites at the same time, Good luck, and God Bless you for hanging in there |
Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus
Post Number: 980 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 24.251.187.142
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 9:13 pm: | |
Gary to show you where the price is at on used buses on the Az C List # 209296809 a 1989 model 15 Eagle converted by Freedom Coach 60 grand with 177,000 miles good luck |
macgyver (91flyer)
Registered Member Username: 91flyer
Post Number: 607 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 173.217.47.28

Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 10:03 pm: | |
Gary, we had insurance... but unfortunately... it all happened at my parents house, and my father hadn't bothered to update the insurance policy in years... So, while there was insurance... there wasn't even enough to cover rebuilding the house, let alone replacing what was in it. I lost over $250,000 worth of stuff all on my own. Including the bus... But, because the bus is a vehicle, homeowners didn't cover it, despite the fact that the house caused the fire on the bus (not the other way around, as local news outlets misreported). So, for everything I lost, I got a grand total of about $10,000 out of it. All I had on the bus was liability... It wasn't being used, it was being converted to MY standards and the way *I* wanted it done... While she's no longer mine, she did survive the fire. I'm sure you've seen threads about a bus named "Phoenix" from George Martinez... Well, that is the bus that burned... He took over the restoration project, and he's come a long way. Anyway.... The first thing I got with the insurance money was a TV (which I actually use as a monitor for my PC) because the monitor I had was just unusable after the fire (mos of the PC's survived, oddly enough)... The 2nd thing I got... Was the bus I have now. The 3rd thing I got was a used Nissan Pathfinder because my brother and father totally trashed my truck and I couldn't rely on it for anything, much less to even BE here when I needed it. (NOBODY else has a key to the Pathfinder. And I've already told them that they'll never get a key. Period.) I also had to pay some medical expenses out of that $$, which, of course, left me with nothing left. The donations I got from these fine folks here on BNO and BCM went to getting clothes and other necessities months before the insurance paid a dime... For which I am very (VERY) thankful for. So, now I'm trying to just sell the few things I have left of any value so that I can get the bus roadable again and get the hell out of Louisiana. But, back on track... You've got a really nice bus... Many of us would just about die to have it... You are one of the few that didn't have to put their own blood, sweat and tears into what it takes to put one like that together... Most of us do it ourselves, and of course... What we think our coaches are worth is *FAR* over what it actually is... Let's face it, we're biased. We think a fully converted bus *SHOULD* be worth more than a comparably equipped stick 'n staple rig... but unfortunately, that's just not the case... And besides... Most of us would only ever sell our babies if we were absolutely forced to, practically with a gun to our heads with no other obvious choice in the matter. Others among us make converting buses a hobby, regardless of what losses (or just lack of any profit) we take when we sell what we've just completed... Folks that do that are rare though... We love to build our rigs, then show 'em off. ;) But, I digress... I like your coach. Everyone here likes your coach... But we're all NUTS, as the name of the site implies.... We're kindof a different breed of people and "hands-on" is just kindof "The Way". -Mac |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
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Post Number: 13 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 66.230.113.152

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 10:42 pm: | |
Yeah we will definitely have to check out that lift, thanks for all the info on it. Mac, Sorry to hear about all the troubles you have had. We will hope and pray that things start looking up for you. As far as the bus John the guy who built it would have never sold it, not even for a million dollars. He Loved his bus. We love the bus too but could never feel as strongly about it as all of you who have poured your heart and soul into yours. No amount of money could compensate for that. |
Nellie Wilson (Vivianellie)
Registered Member Username: Vivianellie
Post Number: 458 Registered: 11-2008 Posted From: 66.87.4.28

Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 3:53 am: | |
Gary - You got me pegged... I like front ends. So glad you liked the music. Really sweet of you to mention it... nothing like positive feedback to keep us artsy (nutsy?) types going. Actually, I'd love to see Alaska. I guess if your bus made it, mine would too? I've heard horror stories about the road though... how tough is it really? You post some really great photos, Gary. Ever consider doing a blog where you could show more? BTW, is that photo (above) you and your lady with Ashley, or is that Ty and Jewel? Thining about that wheelchair lift, just remembered a school bus with one. Lift works perfect. You could buy the bus for about 2K, pull the lift and sell the bus (it's got less than 60K miles). And I'm sure there are many even cheaper. Orrrr... I'll install it in mine, drive it to Homer, and trade you straight up. Seriously though, I think you'd be waaay ahead keeping the bus and selling the S&S. Ashley looks like pretty precious cargo... you'd rather have her enveloped by steel than by cardboard, I'm sure. Besides, how many of us are lucky to be given a work of love that we can actually use? I'll be working on mine for years (God willing) and will probably never attain what you've got sitting in your driveway. Just my thoughts. Nellie |
George Martinez (Foohorse)
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Post Number: 250 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 68.215.72.106

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 6:54 am: | |
I second that, Well said Nellie |
Matthew J Rutkowski (Matt_rutkowski)
Registered Member Username: Matt_rutkowski
Post Number: 33 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 98.235.157.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 2:56 pm: | |
I think you should sell it to me! Lol |
George M. Todd (George_todd)
Registered Member Username: George_todd
Post Number: 1163 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 99.56.244.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 6:41 pm: | |
Well Nellie, I'm into rear ends, so Gary has to go around back, open the doors and take a couple of pictures. Doors include the right side rear, as I think we will find a gen instead of the aux drive? My estimated value has to go up also! G |
George Martinez (Foohorse)
Registered Member Username: Foohorse
Post Number: 254 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 68.215.72.106

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 7:33 pm: | |
Nellie, I don't care about fronts or rears as long as it's cheap to keep and LOW maintenance. |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 14 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 166.205.140.174

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 7:42 pm: | |
George Todd I'm out of town right now, and on my I- phone. When I get back to Homer on Tuesday I'll get you more pics. |
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
Registered Member Username: Niles500
Post Number: 976 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 173.78.39.41
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 11:08 pm: | |
When you get there I'll be at the Salty Dog - first round on me - FWIW |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 15 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 166.205.141.169

Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 2:13 am: | |
Aww the Dawg! The Salty Dawg is a must if you are in Homer, a buddy of mine owns that but he has decided to become a snow bird these days at Lake Havisu, Az. What brings you to Homer this time of year? |
niles steckbauer (Niles500)
Registered Member Username: Niles500
Post Number: 977 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 97.76.163.202
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 3:45 pm: | |
Sorry Gary - thought I put a smiley face on that post - no I'm not there, you would never find me there after August - just my poor attempt at some humor, but good luck to you on your bus and the weather, it can't be too much colder than FL right now - Happy Holidays |
Gary Seay (Gdude)
Registered Member Username: Gdude
Post Number: 19 Registered: 6-2010 Posted From: 66.230.113.117

Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 5:05 pm: | |
Just found out some cool information on my bus today After researching, I found out John purchased this bus from William Alfred Cook from Bloomington Indiana Founder of Cook group and Star of Indiana drum corps. This bus was the first bus. If any of you have been to the superbowl and seen an mc6 in the lot, that was this one. Just thought It was neat to find some history. Anyhow when my computer gets back from the shop I am going to do a blog with complete build pics and finished ones. I'll let y'all know when it's done. Gary |
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