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| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 253 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.54.145  Rating: N/A |
I have my cabinet drawers built. One side of the cabinet has an opening 19 1/2"W. The other side has and opening 14 3/8"W. 3 drawers in each opening. The drawer slides are 1/2" wide per slide. That makes the opening smaller by 1". So what does the dummy that layed this out do you ask? The 19.5" opening has drawer boxes that are correct. 18.5" total width. The 14.375" opening wasn't so good. the boxes should have been 13.375", which would have worked perfectly. So Did yours truly do that? NNNNOOOOooooooo! Some maroon created 3 beautiful drawer boxes 15.375" wide. Now I have to drive an 80 mile round trip to go buy another sheet of cabinet plywood to build the newboxes. Can yyou say STOOOPPPPIIIIDDDDD? | ||
| Van (Van)
Registered Member Username: Van Post Number: 127 Registered: 7-2008 Posted From: 68.108.81.25  Rating: N/A |
How about mis informed? Lol! | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1152 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.55.1.12  Rating: N/A |
NOT STUPID DALLAS! Experience is the best teacher. Been there and don't care to remember all the experience I have encountered also LOL gomer | ||
| Steven M. Toomey (Pabusnut)
Registered Member Username: Pabusnut Post Number: 18 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 174.55.65.46 Rating: N/A |
Dallas, Too big is always better than too small! Can't they be salvaged, if you cut only on one side? If not, I haven't built my cabinets yet so.......Just kidding! Steve Toomey PAbusnut | ||
| Paul Lawry (Dreamscape)
Registered Member Username: Dreamscape Post Number: 709 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 64.40.213.45  Rating: N/A |
Now you'll have to build a cabinet to fit those oversized drawers!............:0 I won't tell you my story! HA | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1441 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 97.226.187.78  Rating: N/A |
You didn't mention depth.....could "they" be modified?...shame to lose all that experience; say nothing of the drawers (material)...lotsa' ways o' skinnin' cats...  Happy New Year! RCB | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 254 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.54.145 Rating: N/A |
Paul, you have a great idea... I'll save them for the under bed storage. Richard,they are 18" deep drawers, and the wife really doesn't want them any shorter. 4", 6" and 12" high. Steve, I thought about cutting them but I used through dowels in the front end sides, mostly for more glue surface, partly for looks. cutting that would leave some weird looking sides unfortunately. Gomer... I've done worse, but if I cut it off twice I think it'll still be too short! Van... Daddy always told me, (See Thread Title!) | ||
| Cable (Fe2_o3)
Registered Member Username: Fe2_o3 Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 74.110.84.128  Rating: N/A |
Measure twice cus once. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1404 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.9.60  Rating: N/A |
"Measure twice cus once." Never use a ruler,doing furniture, measurements get confusing. A Tic stick will carry pencil marks , and save them for weeks , no remembering or thinking needed. Use a knife to make the markings if you like close fits , pencil marks are wide! If you need inside storage ideas , get a book or three on upgrading a boat. FF | ||
| Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
Registered Member Username: Zubzub Post Number: 268 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 174.91.223.24  Rating: N/A |
This happens to me more than I care to admit. Fast Fred has got it. I was as told this many years ago, am still learning to apply it as much as I can. Can't tell you how many times X 3/8" turns into X-1 3/8" or just X 5/8" and occasionally just X!@#$%^&*. The closest measuring involves holding one piece next to the other and marking with a knife, I also have a tiny set square for lining things up. "If you cut it too short, just keep cutting 'til it fits". | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 255 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.54.145 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the tic stick idea guy's. My dad taught me that years ago and I had completely forgotten about it. I use many marking methods, regular pencils, carpenter pencils, mechanical pencils, pocket knife, Xacto knife, I even have an old marking gauge made by my great grand father in the 1800's that I still use. | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 256 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.54.145 Rating: N/A |
I'll try to get a picture up of the drawer boxes today. I think they look rather good. There are no drawer fronts on them yet, they are just boxes, I am waiting on my new-to-me band saw which should arrive tomorrow so I can resaw some of my Osage Orange into thinner strips. | ||
| Len Silva (Lsilva)
Registered Member Username: Lsilva Post Number: 431 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 72.187.35.208  Rating: N/A |
Often had the same problem running cable. You cut it three times and it's still too short. | ||
| Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
Registered Member Username: Oonrahnjay Post Number: 662 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 64.134.184.211  Rating: N/A |
Lin - yeah, and heater hose. It gets shorter the more corners you go around! | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 257 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.54.145 Rating: N/A |
Pictures of a couple of the correct size boxes. I used 1/4" dowels along the front sides that I'll trim off with an orbital sander. I also used Gorilla brand exterior wood glue, (not the normal Gorilla glue you are use to). On the back sides I used glue and 1 1/4" 16 gauge brad nails from my air nailer.   Yes, I have a dove tail jig I was going to use, but my bit is so dull it does more burning than cutting so I went with dowels as opposed to box or finger joints. There is still a lot of glue joint surface,and in an experiment I made a small corner this way with 4 dowels then after sitting 24 hours I tried to pull it apart. 2 dowels broke, chunks of both the edge glued side came out and pieces of the surface side came apart. So far I'm very happy with this glue. (Message edited by Dallas on January 02, 2011) | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 351 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 69.171.161.54  Rating: N/A |
"So far I'm very happy with this glue. " Dal..... has it occurred to you that the glue, & it's fumes, MIGHT be the reason for the error in measurement..... you might be one of those people who get loaded sniffing Library Paste....(mmmmm) | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 258 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.54.145 Rating: N/A |
Nope... | ||
| Bill Holstein (Billmoocow)
Registered Member Username: Billmoocow Post Number: 140 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 71.59.162.64  Rating: N/A |
No drawers in my bus. My wife just fills them with junk. Junk mail especially. Does not like to throw anything away just in case i guess. So, no drawers in my bus... Uh, hers too. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1406 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.17 Rating: N/A |
The drawers look nice and robust , but a length of 1/4 round glued into each corner would almost double the glue area at no cost. Should the drawer get loose full of heavy stuff , it might help. Sailors love overkill! | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 259 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.54.145 Rating: N/A |
good idea Fred! I hate when things come apart unexpectedly, and my wife is famous for stuffing 50 cubic feet worth of stuff into a 10 cubic foot space! | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 267 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 72.172.32.121 Rating: N/A |
YAYYYYYY! I got my Band saw today, with the bonus of a power mitre saw! Watch me chop stuff up now! LOL Thanks Roy and Nancy and Paul and Becky! | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1158 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.55.1.12 Rating: N/A |
watch da fingers!! They don't care what they be a cuttin on LOL Gomer | ||
| Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
Registered Member Username: Oonrahnjay Post Number: 665 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 12.177.219.152 Rating: N/A |
Yeah, keep a count on those fingers, Dal. |