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jim mci-9 (209.240.198.63)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 9:06 am:   

i saw a travel trailer yesterday that was using 10" pvc pipe for holding tanks... it was shaped in a winding "u pattern underneath the floor...the guy used "90's" for the corners...and had had made clamps from all-thread to support it....pretty neat.... i dont know the capacity of 10" pvc, but it looked like an idea for the RTS coaches that have limited room underneath....there are all sorts of fittings availble for pvc...might work???
two dogs (66.90.216.239)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 9:54 am:   

don't see why it wouldn't work..the fittings are pretty expencive tho...tough stuff...harder than my last wifes heart..I use 3" pvc to move portable buildings...just roll 'em where ya' want
Don Ripley (206.149.192.47)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 11:07 am:   

You are going to waste some space using round,but if that is not a concern it should work.When I made my tanks I found pvc contains lead so if your not going to use it for fresh water you should be fine.
Dale MC8 (69.19.173.161)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 11:47 am:   

Don, are you sure about lead in PVC? That is what is used in many new constructed homes as fresh water lines.
Thanks
Dale MC8
Don Ripley (206.149.192.47)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 12:25 pm:   

I don't know about pvc pipe,but I am almost positive the pvc sheets contained lead.I am full timing so I do not have the information with me,but if you called a supplier Im sure they could tell you for sure.
jim mci-9 (209.240.198.61)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 12:40 pm:   

i'm not a chemist... but i'm pretty sure there's no lead in pvc... poly-vinyl-cloride...its made from polymers...plastics...styrofoam....
two dogs (66.90.211.178)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 1:10 pm:   

they been useing it for water lines for years
choochoo (206.176.223.2)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 5:22 pm:   

Hi
I have some 12" PVC pipe and had the same idea to install under bed in my MC 9 got the pipe for nothing but the end caps were very expensive approx. $45.00 each I would have needed six scrapped that idea for now watching E bay for some surplus.

Choochoo Ted
MC 9 non NJ transit
ChuckS (Chucks) (66.167.95.62)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 6:55 pm:   

That _is_ an interesting idea. Would you want to support 1,000 lbs with allthread though? Where/how would you hang it?

BTW, the types of plastics to use are in the BC's Bible which I could look up if someone really needs to know. I'm not quite at that stage yet.
two dogs (66.90.213.71)

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Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 7:40 pm:   

I'd use that metal straping that they bundle lumber with...strip of carpet in between...in the dumpster of every lumberyard...(45.00 wheeew)that's almost cost preventive..the boy scouts here wanted to bury a "time capsel"(sp)...I came up with a piece of 6"pvc & two caps...should be o.k. in 100 years....
choochoo (206.176.198.197)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 1:43 pm:   

Two Dogs

I was going to band all the 12" PVC pipe together W/ half round wood blocks between. I have 800' of 3/4" stainless strapping in my warehouse. I was going to fasten the PVC pipe together. Have the banding tools including crimper to accomplish this task. Now all I need is the end caps at a reasonable cost and I will have a 130 gallon water vessel under my bed
CHOOCHOO MC9 FMCA 2535 Ted
two dogs (66.90.211.134)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 1:47 pm:   

sounds great choochoo...

the mellow TWO DOGS
R.C.Bishop (128.123.221.167)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   

Out of curiosity I called a local irrigation supply biz....12" end caps $16 each, 10" @ $10.63 each. Both glued with PVC Cement. Pipe (low pressure) $1.85 a foot in 20 foot lengths. FWIW

Sounds like a good possibility and thanx for the idea.

RCB
'64 Crown HWC
two dogs (66.90.212.54)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   

WOW !!! good price!!...just don't like the idea of allthread anywhere around the pvc...would be like putting it next to a saw
Larry (208.18.102.135)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 5:38 pm:   

PVC pipe straps is what to use with althread.
don (Bottomacher) (216.130.152.51)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 6:54 pm:   

Irrigation pipe is usually schedule 20, in my experience, about half or so the thickness (and strength, I assume) of schedule 40, which is normal for plumbing. I wonder if the lightweight stuff could stand the installation (water gets heavy!) Be sure before you spend the money.
R.C.Bishop (128.123.221.187)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 8:43 pm:   

Would seem to me that Sched. 20 would be fine for gray and black. Don't know about the fresh water data on it ----but it is PVC. No pressure except sloshing in our use, but it is used in irrigation lines that have pretty good pressure going thru them. Wall thickness increases per size used.

Still worth much consideration until something that precludes it is uncovered. :)

May fit in places that only a custom made rotationally moulded tank would fit. Who says they have to be horizontal?

RCB
'64 Crown HWC
jim mci-9 (209.240.198.61)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 9:14 pm:   

the tanks i saw were 10". and shaped in a "u" pattern... he had bent allthread in a "u" to fit the pipe... bolted it up tight to a crossmember....no moving around....it will work for a close quarter tank....
choochoo (206.176.223.14)

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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   

Jim C
I checked around on the price for end caps for PVC and the price is near the same even checked in Chicago where there in competition. I forgot to qualify that I was talking about schedule 40 12" pipe. Schedule 20 would not be my choice for water tank inside the coach. Schedule 40 has a wall thickness of approx. 1/4" I looked at some pipe that is used on farm silos which was schedule 20 NOT GOOD I have been in the piping industry for many years and would not consider anything less than schedule 40. Sprinkler pipe is not suited for a pressure vessel although the only pressure would be the weight of the liquid no pressure would be exerted on the tank as the liquid is pressureized after the vessel.

ChooChoo Ted FMCA 2535
Jeff (Jeff) (68.10.0.78)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 9:50 pm:   

By going to this website http://www.watertanks.com/calc.asp
U shaped across the bottom of a bus using 12" pipe that equals a total of 1 foot x 16 feet equals 94 gallons. That is more than I have with my two waste water tanks I have mounted under my RTS in the airtank bay. Not sure how an Accuguage would work on such a tank. And to step down the fittings for vent piping, dump valves and 3" straight drop........


Jeff
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Rustless not Busless in Buckroe
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mark (65.40.225.193)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 1:12 am:   

Interresting...

Two 12 foot lengths of 12 inch pipe under a bus = almost 150 gallons of fresh water!

(or 5.875 gallons per foot)

...some possibilities here!

mark

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