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George Myers (12.85.0.163)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 9:28 pm: | |
Toilet Sprayer At the Louisville RV show we carefully went through many top of the line motor homes looking for ideas we might incorporate into our new coach. Everyone had a sprayer on a short hose near the toilet. They are identical to the ones that connect into a standard kitchen faucet. They were all held in a clip that was mounted on the wall in easy reach from the toilet. I could not be sure just what their intended function was. Since the toilet already has water connected to it for flushing, I thought it might be some way to convert the toilet into a bidet. I have since read in a Motor Home magazine article that it is for cleaning the bowl and is useful in saving water. Now for the question. Is this needed, necessary, or useful? It certainly would be easy enough to add one by installing a Tee where the water line connects into the toilet. We had an electric recirculating toilet in the old coach. It had a forceful flush and extra water was not needed. We have only had a few trips in the new coach, which has the standard marine toilet. I do not remember needing extra water to help clean the bowl. What are your thoughts on this? George Myers |
David Anderson (209.223.227.159)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 11:13 pm: | |
I went to an RV show and saw those also. Kind of tells me that those RV toilets need a bit of help getting the poop down. I've read several posts about some guys using the new pressure tank toilets with considerable successs. I've seen one of those and it really works well. No water in the tank, just a pressure tank. The bowl does keep water in it, but those who have it say the rim contains the sloshing while moving. I think that is the way I'm going in my coach. Any Thoughts??? David anderson |
D.Kimmel (152.163.207.178)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 12:56 am: | |
David, Where would I find information on the new pressure tank toilets? I'm still researching my toilet options. Thanks, Darryl Kimmel |
Wilbur Bradbury (204.245.228.100)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 1:30 am: | |
The sprayer is very useful when you flush and a smudge is left on the bowl. It takes a lot less water using the sprayer vs. holding the water valve open and waiting for it to rinse away. Wilbur |
Donald Peter (Don) (172.173.190.220)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 2:03 am: | |
Of course, putting a couple of squares of toilet paper into the bowl before using for #2 virtually assures that there will be nothing to have to spray off afterwards. |
madbrit (216.67.203.102)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 2:37 am: | |
I found that with the ageing Thetford potty in our Apollo, that putting water in the bowl first, normally stopped the 'skid-marks', but in the event of a better flush being required, I installed a kitchen faucet spray unit by 'T'ing it into the feed line and it has worked perfectly. I also use it to add water to the chemical after flushing the tank, much quicker than waiting for the bowl to fill. As the potty is next to the bath/shower unit, the spray also aids swilling that unit down after a post vacation clean-up. Peter. |
Phil (204.89.170.3)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 8:53 am: | |
The sprayer in the motorhome toilets is usually activated only when the flush pedal or handle is pressed. In my Monaco if you press the foot lever and hold the spray lever the water is diverted from the flush to the sprayer. It IS useful for "skid marks"!! |
Mark Radius (24.247.10.59)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 9:44 am: | |
This "amenity" may be showing up in the "high end" conversions because it is becoming standard equipment in "over-the-road" coachs. All of the VanHools we run for the charter company I drive for have that hose/sprayer. It is piped to a quick connect fitting in the engine area so that a garden hose can be attached. It makes dumping, rinsing/cleaning and refilling the toilet a MUCH easier job. Because most over-the-road coachs don't carry a fresh water supply anymore (hence the air or electric powered recycling toilets) the sprayer is not used while on the road. My experience is that IF the toilet is flushing properly, and IF you have the correct chemical in the tank, flushing alone is all that is needed to whisk away most anything that is supposed to go down there! |
madbrit (216.67.192.35)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 2:45 pm: | |
> Depends if last night's menu was a good strong Indian Curry or a Mexican Green Chilli dish. This thread was more about coverted coaches with nice pottys and not so much about "In Service" units with stainless steel facilities. Peter. |
David Anderson (209.223.227.181)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2001 - 8:21 pm: | |
Darryl Kimmel, I have no info on the toilet other than the city I live in installed one in a small terminal building at our municipal airport. It has a pressure tank within the tank (no water is loose in the tank), an elongated bowl higher than standard for ADA requirements. The flush actually blasts the solids down the drain. I've never seen anything stick to the porcelin. It always wisks away the waste. It uses 1.5gal/flush. The bowl has a regular trap like a house toilet, so there is never any chance of smell unless the water was to slosh over the trap and make an air gap. I'd think that would be pretty hard to do in a 40' coach. It is made by Kohler. You might check their website. David Anderson |
Jim Stacy (12.87.101.209)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 10:41 pm: | |
1.5 gallons per flush is a lot more than an RV stool uses. Too much for fresh and gray tanks. Phil is correct, the original equipment sprayer is only pressurized when the water foot valve is held down. We rarely use our spray. The porcelain, freshly wetted, seems to work better than the plastic bowls. I know one guy who uses a water pistol for cleanup. He says it brings a whole new meaning to "shooting the s---". Jim Stacy |
RoadsScholar (24.69.205.228)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2001 - 3:17 pm: | |
A number of years ago while backpacking around S.E.Asia and elsewhere we found many toilets had that sprayer unit. The reason was, it works better than toilet paper. We have one in our conversion for that purpose. Do the dirty work with the sprayer, use a small piece of tp to dry and toss that in the garbage container. Saves a forest, easier on your ass, you don't have a bunch of s--- covered paper in the garbage and you save money. Oh, by the way, put a pressure reducer on your service line so you don't drive your hemmies up to your throat. Brian |
madbrit (216.67.199.237)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2001 - 5:08 pm: | |
Sounds like a quick one-stop enema service to me!!! LOL. I think you are refering to a bidet, very popular on the Continent of Europe, and in all 5 Star luxury bathrooms, their best use is for washing your feet. The ones with hot air dry and hair curling tongs are the absolute Rolls Royce of bidets, once used never forgotten...... LOL. Peter. |
FAST FRED (209.26.87.86)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2001 - 6:01 am: | |
Even if you have a plastic toilet , the water use can be lowered by shooting the inside of the toilet bowl with PAM , cooking oil spray. The sticky fellows just slide down , leaving almost no residue . VIVA Mwxican food!! FAST FRED |
Scott Whitney (63.151.64.84)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2001 - 1:07 am: | |
Well, I love spicy Mexican food and on occasion have a few beers more than I ought to. The skid mark sprayer sounds like an easy and worthwhile option to install during the converions. So the question is: How do you plumb it in so that it is only pressurized when the pedal is depressed? Is this best? Seems like you would have to attack the toilet, add a 'T' after the valve and pull some water line thru the side of the toilet. Is that what they do in the fancy RVs? If so, seems like it would be akward to use as a bidet . . . one foot on the pedal while reaching around trying to not to fall in . . . |
Madbrit (216.67.192.63)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2001 - 3:36 am: | |
Mine is pressurized all the time. It works better that way and has more pressure when the toilet valve is closed. It's great for hosing out the shower after a vacation trip, as I have it plumbed between the potty and tub. This way is better as a bidet too as you can hang your butt over the tub and spray away to your hearts content........ LOL. |
Scott Whitney (63.151.64.84)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2001 - 11:37 pm: | |
OK, I am convinced. I am plumbing one in independant of the toilet pedal. Maybe a small ball valve before the sprayer so it could be shut off would be prudent too. Possible marketing terms for such a gadget: Skid Marks Away . . . or Powder Burns Be Gone. . . |