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MC - Iv (24.83.235.106)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 2:18 am: | |
I picked up an electric block heater the other day, it is the external type, flow through style. I would like to install it in my MC-9, 6v92TA.
The heater has threaded fittings in and out with a one-way check valve and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on where in the system to install it.
There are many water lines surrounding the engine and I would like to know which one might the most appropriate.
Iv. |
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.208.131.82)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 7:29 am: | |
Best bet is to return it and get one that goes into the block. Usually they go into the side of the block on the starter side on the pulley end of the engine. These last a long time, are trouble-free and work very well.
Jim |
Mark R. Obtinario (Cowlitzcoach) (204.245.228.104)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 10:03 am: | |
I have had very good luck with Kims Hotstart inline engine heaters over the years. I can't think of one that has ever burned out.
The heater can be plumbed in just about anywhere a hose can be broken in order to install it. Since it is a convection style heater, the closer to the block it is the faster it will warm up the engine.
Good luck and keep youself warm.
Mark O. |
Bob Wood (66.208.219.185)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 1:06 pm: | |
I agree with you Jim, I installed a heater that mounts inside the block of my 6V92T two years ago, and it works great. I bought the 1500watt model, and the cost was around $55.00.
Bob. |
Dennis (198.81.26.38)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 3:56 pm: | |
What are the pro/cons of each type heater/installation?
I am looking at replacing a failed heater in a 4106/8v71. |
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.146.39.223)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 5:43 pm: | |
On a Detroit, the only hoses coming out of the block go to the defroster or heater up front. There is no place to easily tap into without installing some extra fittings on the block. With the in-block one, there is a plate covering the blockheater hole with 4 bolts holding it on. Replace that with the blockheater and its done.
Just one guy's opinion.
Jim |
ralph7 (208.148.72.142)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 6:03 pm: | |
Both my 8v71's have in block heators an my 1980 audi diesel had one also ,they work. I lived in WI. 18 yrs used an installed all 3 types. Tank and inline heators not as good as in bolck, takes longer to heat circulates more water. In block if installed properly an keep salt off connection at block. thats weakest point corrision. Tank and inline heators do burn out more often but easier to replace. |
Buswarrior (Buswarrior) (64.229.210.6)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 8:08 am: | |
In-block heaters have the advantage of putting 100% of the heat your electricity dollars have purchased into the engine, where you wanted it in the first place.
In line heaters by design will not get the block warmed up as soon and/or will take more power to do it, simply because the heat doesn't all get in the block, some gets wasted to the air, and then one has to wait for the hot water to laze around, all the while consuming power.
And, you needed to install it in an advantageous place to promote good water flow.
This may be important to some, depending on utility rates and resources available.
happy coaching!
buswarrior |
Jeff Miller (205.217.70.42)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 6:57 pm: | |
You might consider an oil sump heater also, can buy magnetic ones to stick to the bottom of the sump. |
Guy Bouchard (161.184.178.150)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 8:18 pm: | |
block heater
Our experience has been totally in favour of the internal block heater for the Detroit. There are two types, depending on your accessory and mounting situation,(one in front of the block and one on the side front). Up here most of our installations are for sawmill operation where engines are regularly started at temperatures of down to -40F. As someone mentioned previously, if you start in real cold weather, the oil sump heater is a real good bet. Remember single grade oil in a Detroit.
Guy 4905 |
MC - Iv (24.83.235.106)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 3:12 am: | |
Thanks everyone for all the input. I got the inline heater free and was hoping that it would only be temporary until I can get a diesel-fired system.
I noticed a couple of "ProHeat" systems for sale on EBay. Coach heaters I think.
Iv. |
Dennis (64.12.96.105)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 12:02 pm: | |
Great explanations, thanks to all. |