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bruceknee (12.90.54.95)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 4:48 pm:   

gonna go look at a nj eagle, not really sure what to look for. help! thanks, bruce
Phil Curtis (64.136.27.75)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 9:31 pm:   

When NJ started dumping the old fleet of MCI9s and eagles the eagles went very fast.The ones I looked at were in pritty good shape.From what Iv learned they were keept in doors when not in searvice and washed under the carrage durring winter service.Check for rust on the Eagle There is more steel in them under the outer skin.Good luck and go for it if you think the price is right.
Jojo Colina (Du1jec) (68.8.176.35)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   

NJ Eagles were built with cor-ten steel. This type of steel oxidizes (read rust) to form a protective coating that prevents further oxidation.

You will see rust colored oxidation, but this is not going to be a penetrating rust.

You will often see cor-ten steel used in large steel outdoor structures such as water tanks and even sculptures which take on a naturally oxidized dark brown color.

Jojo
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.99.4)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 1:47 am:   

Really?

I've never seen corten used in anything but buildings, bridges and boats.

I guess Bus starts with B too.

Gary
Peter Broadribb (Madbrit) (216.67.215.134)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 2:10 am:   

I think they are making the Armco crash barriers you see along the highways and freeways in it now. I have seen miles of new, lightly rusting sections on a bunch of highways and freeways. They seem to blend into the landscape better than the bright galvanised sections they used to install.

Peter.
TWO DOGS (66.90.216.24)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 5:34 am:   

1/8 inch below the window frames on the side,if you can push a icepick thru the metal -2000 in the bays ,look up at the roof(floor of bus),if you can get wood under your fingernail -2000
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy) (24.196.191.70)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 9:40 am:   

Two Dogs, What in the world are you talking about?
Richard
TWO DOGS (66.90.216.12)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 10:22 am:   

what do you need me to explain to you
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.152.168.150)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 12:13 pm:   

That it's dollars you were talking about
TWO DOGS (66.90.212.95)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 6:59 pm:   

ohhh....had to go to town today...worried about that...thought ,well ,maybe the young guys don't know what a icepick is.............yep.......I was talking about dollars...sorry
Greg Roberts (Gregeagle20) (24.175.216.76)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 7:39 pm:   

Maybe I can be of help here since I actually own a NJ Transit Eagle 20.

The frame is sound and I doubt you will find anything at all wrong with the corten steel.

The places to look are the wheel wells where the rubber mold is attached. The self tapping screws all around the wheel wells are attached into a formed carbon steel hoop. The one that most likely might have a problem is the door side front and this is due to a/c condensate dripping down into this area. Expect the floor under the a/c ducting to be rotted too. You can use the ice pick trick at the top of the bay to check this area.

The next area of concern is the small tubing supports under the bay floors. Use the ice pick and check in various places.

Another area to check is the torsilastic hardware. There are some clam shell type clamps made of carbon steel that tend to delaminate.

Other then these cosmetic areas, the buses are amazingly sound for having ran in harsh conditions.

Good luck and make sure the radiator is not rotten.
DonTX/KS (67.210.125.160)

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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 10:51 pm:   

Hi Greg! I was by your shop yesterday and wondered if you were at the same place, and if I could see your progress!
I was about to tell the others about yours second hand, now I can just indorse your statements. From my point of view, that was a very fine bus you got.
I would like to see that new paint job.
Greg Roberts (Gregeagle20) (24.175.216.76)

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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 9:21 pm:   

Don, I took the bus out of the warehouse about 6 weeks ago and now have it stored over at an RV park. I am hoping for some weekends off of work so I can get to the inside work. Maybe we can get together before you head north in the spring? When did you guys get in from Kansas?
DonTX/KS (67.210.125.235)

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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   

We been here over a month now. Holler when you feel like showing it off.

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