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| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 33 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175  Rating: N/A |
Hi All, How do you all run your sewer lines from your coaches? I have to replace the hinge and arm on the bay where my sewer and electric lines run and am wondering what is a good way to run the lines without the door being open. Thanks, Kat | ||
| Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
Registered Member Username: Bill_gerrie Post Number: 471 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 216.198.139.38  Rating: N/A |
Kat I have seen a lot of the bus conversions with the 3" outlet come out underneath just like the S&S units. That way you only have to hook up the hose and pull the release. You could also have a trap door in the bottom of the bay to feed the hose out that way you can leave the bay door closed. Another way although more expensive is the maserator pump with only a garden hose to hook up. I have the first mentioned way and in 25 years have never had it contact anything on the ground due to clearance issues. Bill | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Hi Bill, Is it very difficult to drill the hole in the floor to run the hose through? My electrical runs through the same bay and I was thinking about cutting a horseshoe opening at the bottom of the door with a hatch that opens and closes so the door stays closed. Are your floor openings lined with rubber? Thanks, Kat | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 2055 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
most owners will recommend to only use the hose when the tank is nearly full to dump.This avoids problems with solids settling in the grooves of the hose You can then only hook it at times when needed. Now if you want to, at least, keep it connected all the time when in some sites, I would hate to cut that fine panel for an outlet. Our 4104 had a through the floor outlet on one side and on the other side required to leave door open or ajar if kept connected. We only connected it to dump. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1291 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.12.238  Rating: N/A |
I hate cutting holes in bay floors because it almost always involves cutting through a strengthening rib. A bottom sewer outlet also is much too close to the ground in 4104s and 4106s and is in danger of getting knocked off, happens pretty often in SS. You really don't want to cut into that baggage door. It will be a mess and then you have new water and dirt entry problems. It is just a lot of unnecessary work not even considering the looks. Both my 4104 and 4107 have inside bay outlets which are best in my opinion. As already posted I only attach my hose when dumping, usually when leaving an RV park or a rest stop dump. The way around most messes is to get one of those clear extensions so you can tell when the tank is empty and also make it easy to clean out the dump valve without messing up the bay floor. I have both straight and 90* extensions and wouldn't want to do without them. My 4104 came with a dump on the right side so I used a T and added another one on the left side. It was very handy quite a few times.Unfortunately my 4107 will not easily allow this, but on the 4104 the setup made it easy. As John says, a tank empties far better when you let it get as full as possible. Never leave the dump valve open while parked. You want as much liquid as possible mixed with solids. | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 36 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
My bay door is broken right now from leaving it open for the hoses. The problem is that I have to leave the door open enough for my electrical cord as it runs from that bay too. It's slightly propped open for my electrical cord but when I install a new hinge and arm I have to have a way to at least have the door open enough for my electrical cord or have an opening so I don't have to have the door open. I always let my waste water tank fill up to about 3/4 to keep solids from accumulating. My wastewater tank is fairly large-45 gal so I don't have to dump that too often. I need to find a way to run my electrical cord and grey water hose without keep that door open. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kat | ||
| Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
Registered Member Username: Bill_gerrie Post Number: 473 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 216.198.139.38 Rating: N/A |
Kat My bus never had under neath compartments so I added a floor at the bottom of the skirting and cut doors from the side panels. I use a full lenght steel hinge. My sewer hose is underneath near the rear wheel and only about an inch below the skirting. Never hit anything yet. For the electrical connection you could use a male end mounted permantly to the side of the bus and have a detachable cord. Saves having the door open for the cord. If the door is open all the time you will get mice or squirrels at some time get in. Bill | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1294 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.12.238 Rating: N/A |
The electric cord is less of a problem because it is so much smaller and can even be run from one bay to another without too much trouble. It is far better to have a setup which allows bay doors to be kept closed. When a door is open all the door weight is on the rubber hinge. When it is closed no weight is on the rubber hinge. You can even install one of those SS type outside wall outlets for electric and water connections, my 4104 had this setup. However, my 4107 has both the electric cord and water hose coming out a very small hole in the bay floor which I like better. There is never any reason to leave the sewer hose connected for a long time even if you are a full timer because you need to let the tank fill before dumping. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1489 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.43  Rating: N/A |
How do you all run your sewer lines from your coaches? What sewer lines? The black/grey tank is inside directly below the toilet.This allows winter operation with the goodies in heated space. The sink/ G disposal is next to the head , so it too has its own gravity tank inlet. KISS , you may have to repair it someday! The tank connects to the dump with a Du Pree hose thru the side of the coach,small locked access door. FF | ||
| Dave Walker (Chrome_dome)
Registered Member Username: Chrome_dome Post Number: 247 Registered: 3-2010 Posted From: 75.210.49.226  Rating: N/A |
We have the male plug hookup through the siding just plug in to our 100 foot cord. Masserator with a 5/8 hose 100 foot with another section if needed only attached when I dump them. Done Dave | ||
| Jim Wallin (Powderseeker01)
Registered Member Username: Powderseeker01 Post Number: 112 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 70.90.115.49  Rating: N/A |
Our 4107 dumps through the bay bottom on the non-curb side through a 3" outlet. It extends about 1" below the bottom of the coach. Since we are fulltiming, it stays open all the time...year round without any problems. Once a month or so I will close the valves and fill the tank to give everything a good flush. I can empty the 140 gallon black tank in about a minute since the system is well vented. Before this arrangement, we would need to leave the bay door open in order to stay connected which allows in the cold (several nites ~ -15 or so this winter), not so good and also lets critters move in...also not so good. Electric connects in the compartment formerly used to service the OEM chemical head. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1492 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.40 Rating: N/A |
Once a month or so I will close the valves and fill the tank to give everything a good flush. This may or may not soften and flush the "standees" that do not drain well with a constantly draining system. IF the tank starts to fill with stuck stuff on the bottom, drain the tank, install 40 lbs of ice and go for a ride in city traffic. FF | ||
| Jim Wallin (Powderseeker01)
Registered Member Username: Powderseeker01 Post Number: 113 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 70.90.115.49 Rating: N/A |
I use RidX to handle the "standees". So far, approaching 3 years of fulltiming...no problems. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1297 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.40.130 Rating: N/A |
Jim, If it works it works. |