| Author | Message | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 1221 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 184.213.82.135  Rating: N/A |
A while back was looking for a trailer that I could use for kart racing. Well I traded my stacker for a nice 8x20 and $$$ that is fully equipped for my needs. The problem I have is, its got a vinyl wrap on both sides, well one side now after Susan and I worked 3 partial days removing it. I/we are dreading the other side for obvious reasons. The vinyl came right off but the residual glue was/is a bitch! Does anyone have a better and quicker way of removing this crap they call glue? I have tried the following: Sanding = gums up Wd-40 = works but very slow Scraper = needed for whatever you use Goop off = waste of time Sticker b gone = waste of more time Prep all = (body shop recommended) junk Easy off = didnt even touch it Gas = works the best but you have to scrape and rub like hell Anything else.... ANYONE!!!! Not worried about the paint as its going to be painted anyway! | ||
| Matthew J Rutkowski (Matt_rutkowski)
Registered Member Username: Matt_rutkowski Post Number: 42 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 98.235.157.220 Rating: N/A |
Ace, Detail supply houses make something that looks and smells like a huge pencil eraser for on your drill. It works amazingly well and doesn't hurt the paint. I'm in the auto Buisness and we buy used cargo vans all the time and have to remove the previous owners decals. Anyway try it you'll like the results. Good luck, Matt | ||
| Matthew J Rutkowski (Matt_rutkowski)
Registered Member Username: Matt_rutkowski Post Number: 43 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 98.235.157.220 Rating: N/A |
Carb cleaner also works very good | ||
| Pete/RTS Daytona (Pete_rtsdaytona)
Registered Member Username: Pete_rtsdaytona Post Number: 656 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 184.88.99.113  Rating: N/A |
http://www.corbingraphics.com/accessoriesstrippersliquid.htm http://www.rapidtac.com/rapid-remover.html http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=19307.0 http://www.stickercity.com/grafix-gone-adhesive-tar-remover-4-oz.-clon.html http://www.pacificcoastsignsupply.com/catalog/Cleaners.htm ????????? If your not wooried about the paint --> acetone should do it ?? (Message edited by Pete_rts/daytona on May 01, 2011) (Message edited by Pete_rts/daytona on May 01, 2011) | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1488 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 97.227.227.158  Rating: N/A |
And...even if you are worried about the paint... Acetone should do it!!!  Best wishes, Ace! Nice to see a "different issue" back on the board; thanx!!! RCB | ||
| Donald P H (Eagle19952)
Registered Member Username: Eagle19952 Post Number: 72 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 75.204.81.206 Rating: N/A |
Sometimes i have found that a good slathering coat of GOJO will lift a lot of adhesives... Good luck. | ||
| ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
Registered Member Username: Shadowman Post Number: 371 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.98.131.89 Rating: N/A |
Lighter Fluid maybe? | ||
| Steve "Spanky" Aune (Spanky77707)
Registered Member Username: Spanky77707 Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 64.234.1.246  Rating: N/A |
Ace, heat it up with a hair dryer, then it'll scrape off. Note: heat, scrape, heat, scrape... | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1366 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.55.178.71  Rating: N/A |
Mineral Spirits will work too,, Like said, Heat and scrape. Last resort,Wally World, Old Dad's Paint stripper. takes hide,hair,and all at one time. Wear protective gear when using any of the above mentions. Gomer | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 2071 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
lacquer thinner-nuff said! | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1367 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.55.178.71 Rating: N/A |
CHESSIE!!! Gomer | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 693 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 72.211.128.245  Rating: N/A |
This sounds like a bunch of people who are addicted to consumer products & know little about solvents. Xylene Methylene Chloride Methyl Ethel Ketone are the vehicle for 90% of adhesives & paints (not water based) These 3 plus denatured Alcohol & Stoddard solvent are about all one will ever need to remove paint, adhesives & excess elbow work from your life. ...and all of these are found at the Big Bix stores as well as your local Ace or True Value. A quart can of each puts you in the catbird seat. | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 1222 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 173.137.231.189 Rating: |
Ok an update on removing this stuff they call GLUE! Tried the mek... All that does is clean and smear. My boss called his friend who owns a sign shop and after explaining my situation, the friend recommended me to go Lowes and purchase a penetrating inhibitor that was orange, a gell and custrus scented. Only thing I found was "goo gone" and since it was a gell, and me working on vertical sides, I figured this was what the doctor ordered. He also advised me to start high and let it set for about 10 minutes then to scrape the glue off with a plastic scraper. Well let me tell you, the ONLY thing that stuff does is smell good. It didn't even think about dissolving the glue. Soo, what I did find that works and works fast is this...DON'T peel the vinyl off first, but DO scrape it off with a 4 inch metal changeable blade scraper. Once the vinyl is scraped off, wet a rag with plain old gas. Just rub easy in circular motions and the stuff from hell dissapears right before your eyes. If it appears to NOT go away, wet the rag again, really wet and it will almost run itself off. I swear this is the easiest way I have found. I did half of one side if this trailer in about 1 hour compared to 3 partial days on the other side. If I ever have to do this. again, I hope I remember this easy method, because I have almost a trailer full of cleaners, solvents, glue removers that I personally know will not work or should I say work fast and easy! Thanks for all your tips... But mine is scrape first, then rub it off with a really wet gas rag! | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 630 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 184.0.13.120  Rating: N/A |
A real heat gun which gets way hotter than a hair dryer does a good job. Heat the vinyl before pulling it off and often the glue will come along with it. But is sounds like you "got 'er done". | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 1223 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 173.137.209.22 Rating: N/A |
I used a REAL heat gun and all it did was make the vinyl come off really easy which wasnt hard to begin with especially after sitting all day in the Florida sunshine. I think alot of the stubborn problem could be related to the wrap I am removing is over the remains of an even prior wrap and maybe when they removed the first one, they left some residual glue causing a contact application. I'm not sure but I can see old imprints that dont match up to the one I'm removing. Right now I would venture to say I'm about 75% done but slowly and surely, I'm gettiing there! Next wil be clean, D-A, ckean, tape, etching primer, then paint! | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1491 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 97.215.21.171 Rating: N/A |
Good for you, Ace....and thanx for the detail. BUT, remember what gas CAN do, under the right circumstances, right? I have been battling the same sort of thing on a couple of projects and ended up using everything under the sun. However, I just wanted to remove, not repaint..... No "easy" solution to ALL problems. But where there is a will.....well, you know! FWIW RCB | ||
| L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
Registered Member Username: Jamo Post Number: 184 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 74.71.202.72  Rating: N/A |
That's what I was thinking, Chuck. Ace has two posts in a row, one mentioning gas soaked rags and the next a "real" heat gun. Hope your insurance agent isn't a BNO member... Still with us today, Ace?? | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 1224 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 68.243.27.197 Rating: N/A |
No, no no! The heat gun was one of the very first items used before any solvents or gas was even considered! Some people might argue but I DO have common sense! | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1492 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 97.225.99.205 Rating: N/A |
Really...????... RCB | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1493 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 97.225.99.205 Rating: N/A |
Really...????... I've known (of) you too long Ace...some uf us just...know! RCB | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1369 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 71.55.178.71 Rating: N/A |
Chessie!!, They are at it again !!! LOL Gomer | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 517 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 75.91.203.25  Rating: N/A |
(ChuckLLb said): "BUT, remember what gas CAN do, under the right circumstances, right?" Chuck 2 b.... just think what those other chemicals can do, and most of them have a lower flashpoint than gasoline. Ace, if there comes a next time, I use to buy used truck to put on the road. The easiest way I found of removing the vinyl glue was to strip it using a heat gun, then Acetone to clean up afterwards. Of course this meant letting the glue area sitting overnight and applying the Acetone in the early morning, then as the sides heated up, more Acetone on a rag would wipe the residue right off. I'm not saying it would work in your case, the adhesives have probably changed in the last 10 or 15 years. (Message edited by Dallas on May 04, 2011) | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 631 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 184.0.13.120 Rating: N/A |
Ah Ace, If'n you had enny common sense, you'd drive th' car an stay in a Holiday Inn for $60 per night. How many motel nights could ya buy for what you've put in buses in $$ & labor hours in the last 20 years???????? I ain't judgin'. I have the same affliction. I ain't been right since I hit my head on that first baggage door! | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1516 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.195.73.171  Rating: N/A |
The challenge I have had is dead rubber cement. Beneteau (a boat builder) used the wrong rubber cement to install a foam backed headliner back in the 80's. Almost every boat suffers from the headliner simply falling off , leaving behind a brown mess. "Better living thru chemistry" has failed to solve or dissolve the mess.. So far a SS hand brush ,scrubbing, has been the only solution , tho it takes lots of hours to get it to the point where it can be painted. Sometimes the hard way is the only way. For Ace the results of removal may show color discoloration under the removed film. Repainting might be the only way . FF | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 531 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 75.91.204.67 Rating: N/A |
If the paint isn't an issue, try using Dot 3 brake fluid. It will eat the paint off of just about anything and I've had god luck with it removing other stuff too. The nice thing about it is that as soon as you hit it with water it quits eating the paint. |
