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George Martinez (Foohorse)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 12:37 am:   

So I have cut a hole in my floor so that I can build a step down shower so that I don't have to crouch or have the water at chest height instead of overhead. I have seen a new miracle welding rod that you solder aluminium and it is stronger than welding, alumaloy is the brand name. has anyone used this? or should I buy a proper tig welder
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 1:23 am:   

George, the rods you speak of work pretty good for welding pop cans together when you get the hang of it but are useless for any real welding.
A TIG would work best but the cheapest way out is get a 110v MIG welder with the gas regulator and solid alum welding wire. You would need to buy or rent a tank of Argon to use with it for shielding gas.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 1:40 am:   

Gee...
I wish I knew somebody that could help you,
people who make a living doing "Heli-Arc" are so rare to find
let alone deal with and afford.
Resource is everything when your screwing together
one of these old beasts on a limited budget.

Cross your fingers...
maybe there'll be a post below
telling you how a PO did it
with J-B Weld, chicken Wire & & old Mouse Milk Can.





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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 2:34 am:   

Knowing nothing here..... but yackin away anywho... Can you not cut the hole, but use wood flooring instead of alu or is it the one piece bus thing where it all has to be alu? Also, I searched around for other peoples opinions on the aluloy stuff too. People say it is not nearly as easy as in the video to get a good solid bond. The problem seems to be that although the rod melts, the original metal does not so it doesnt really "weld" it all together as "one solid" piece.......
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 6:38 am:   

That "miracle" welding rod has been around for years (at least 20), never gained much traction,,,,figure I know why. Good idea about the step down...if you can't TIG it maybe mecanical fasteners (rivets etc)......now that i think about it that miracle rod works like solder....so maybe if you had two surfaces flush and smooth to each other it might have "some" strength"
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 6:48 am:   

The only I know to properly weld aluminum is heli arc which I think uses a helium shielding gas and alot of heat. I would have a pro come weld it for me if I was doing it.

Good luck
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 8:32 am:   

hmmm, I was at a welding supply store just today and the guy at the counter was swearing up and down I could weld a bunch of metals (aluminum too) with a mig..... he said that a 110 would do up to 1/4" and 240 would do over that... but the trick is preheating it

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 8:48 am:   

The Trick to welding Aluminium with a MIG gun is not to use the gun supplyed with it. You need a spool gun to feed the wire. I set up my WeldPack 100 to do aluminium and the wire drags in the innershield of the gun and bird cages at the feed rollers. Everything has to be clean to weld. Any impurity at all will cause a bad weld. The best is TIG it's like gas welding with a throttle.

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 9:40 am:   

FOOY, I have a new mig and am looking for a spool gun just for aluminium. If anyone knows where I can buy one resonable let me know. It is a new style Northern Tool 135. Caught it on sale and couldn't refuse it.LOL I believe it is made by Hobart. I would recommend this for home owners types. I Have no connection with Northern Tool either. I do buy from both places and get welding supplies at Lowe's[cheaper for the same stuff] lol


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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 9:52 am:   

Teresa those rods do ok for patching I could never make it work with the propane torch but a regular torch does good after a lots of practice.
I just bought a new Lincoln Tig welder with hand controls those babies are not cheap lol
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:07 am:   

George, You'll need it pretty rigid so it doesn't deflect when you step in and out or the drain plumbing will fail.
Why don't you weld up the structure out of steel, put a 1" plywood bottom in it and find or make a liner or fiberglass up a pan? All of those things can be done to custom dimensions and on a budget and the difference in weight won't matter to that Buffalo. If you want to save a little weight, buy smaller bags of dog cookies!
George Martinez (Foohorse)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:33 am:   

Thanks for the feed backback all. Don that was my suspicion about those rods and as Teresa's guy told her it is a solder not a weld their video presentation is impressive. Jack I know of the resource you speak of but as a tech and a certified welder myself I don't care to give away my money to have someone do something for me that I can do myself the labor paid will at least pay for a part of the machine I plan to purchase not to mention what my future needs will be or the money that I can make with it. this route I'm taking fits with my vision of having a small repair shop in my bus. but I am as always appreciative of your advice just wish Dalla's was better at setting traps for game bird roasting. Hey Patrick I thought this stuff was some new thing. I fell for the info-video and bought two pounds of the rods, I figure like you said it would make a somewhat strong solder but for the structure that supports my shower and me (no tonnage comments from you Jack) I want welds. and a Tig machine is my preferred method. LUVBUS love that name, If you haven't mentioned that you used these rods I would send them back. Brice now is this you or the OTHER Brice ;) Thanks All if someone knows of a good used machine please let me know if not I am going to buy one from China (scary) for around $700 or Miller has one for $1,800 GULP!!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:34 am:   

HEY MARVIN I MISS YOUR SHOP BUDDY AND YOU AS WELL.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:50 am:   

Fooy I think that you will find a whole bunch of our high end products are made outside the USA. The only reason they can make more $$$$ and not have to pay benefits to us.

Gomer
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:03 am:   

is going to be expensive putting this shower as the others have said you will need the proper welder, if you know how to weld AL the the best way is go to a welding supply store and see if they have or know where you can obtain the type of welder . rember that if you go for the wire feed you will need a spool gun to feed the wire proper.some supply store will rent them but not cheap. some time it is best to buy the tool ,use it and when no longer have any use for it sell it to recover some of the cost.how ever as long as you have the bus you can use the welder. be sure to clean all the points were you going to weld with a stainless steel wire brush just before welding as the AL will oxidize weakening your weld. do not use steel for your frame as it is to heavy and will interact with the al. rember that the floor of your bus is a major part of the bus.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:19 am:   

See George? I Told ya you could use a MIG welder.
One thing to mention, while using the Mig as an Aluminuminuminuminumyyynum welder....
Clean (or replace) the Rollers, use a new liner and replace the tip on the gun. You do not want any of the old wire that was sluffed off before to contaminate the aluminum wire.
Also, practice with it first, as Brice said, you'll find a tendency for it to Bird Nest at the rollers, and you need to find the proper roller tension and feed rate, along with changing the system from Negative to positive ground.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:59 am:   

I just did a search for Spool Guns and found a ~$500.00 175 amp mig with spool gun at Eastwood with some good reviews. just food for thought.

"standard disclamer not affiliated dont get profits ect..."

Brice
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 12:19 pm:   

I knew a Brain Surgeon once...
he refused to let someone else do for him
that which he could do himself too.....


You either pay with time (how much does one have left)
or you pay in other ways...

aren't choices wonderful
and time consumptive?

Who was the person who tried convinced me
that ALL THINGS
are available on Ebay
all of the time..
;)>


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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 2:39 pm:   

Oh George just cut a hole in the roof to stick your head through and be done with it,A lot easier, your welcome. DONE

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:11 pm:   

Thank you Mel, Brice, Dalla's. I am buying the tig welder in two days. the hole is cut the cage is measured and ready for welding. Jack THRRUUUPPPP (that's a raspberry) I AM!! buying it on EBAY. Dave what a great idea I could have made a clear perspex bubble like on a aeroplane.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:20 pm:   

By the way for the new folks here. I really do consider Jack A close and good friend one that I would be willing to get beat up for (almost ; ) inside joke) even if he did wreck my bay door. I just have to maintain the RASS level to a degree that's all.

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:31 pm:   

Hey Fooey...
There was a B-29 Perspex cover on eBay awhile back.
They were there to make it possible to take celestial readings before there was such stuff as GPS and digital computers.

On my last bus I replaced one of the vent covers with a piece of clear polycarbonate in order to let in more light... a really bad mistake.
The clear cover let in more than light, it let in enough heat that the roof A/C couldn't keep up. If you stood under it, you could feel the sun beating on you.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:47 pm:   

You can use SS bolts or Al or SS rivets for structural strength and use all kinds of options for sealing.

Good rivets will hold anything you can build, it is done with airplanes all the time!!

Good thing about rivets or bolts is you can take it apart.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:37 pm:   

That skylight idea is not a bad one. Saw a 4106 that had one in the bathroom and it REALLY made it feel open, bigger and brighter. Would think that a insulated plug would help with the heat/cold. Might be worth the leak hassles.

Same thing with our house. Would never have wanted skylights but now that we have lived with them for a couple years would not be without.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 2:55 pm:   

Hey guys I just bought a miller 140 for 692.oo delevered to houston. I was paying 50 to 75 bucks per hr for a welder. Spent all last week welding?????? and (grinding splatter) but my welding l00ks as good as the welder was dooing..... Have not tried aluminum yet fully intend to try Jim
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 3:08 pm:   

Practice makes perfect[?] What is perfect? when it stays together LOL and what makes a perfect weld??? Grinders!! Just funning but think about it and Jim Good luck!!

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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 5:28 pm:   

You will never be sorry for buying a welder and you will be using it forever, especially when you own a bus!!
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 8:41 pm:   

those are my thoughts Gus. Jim the miller web site has a great welding calculator that is very helpfull
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 8:52 am:   

Which Tig welder did you buy? I've been using Lincoln 185 for years, but there are new inverter based machines out now with as much power, way better control and weigh about a quarter as much. If you already are a very good O-A welder you will have good puddle control and be able to pick up welding aluminium in 10 - 20 hours. Keys are correct current - about 1 amp per thou of material thickness so dial in 65 amps for 16 gauge aluminium and that lets you keep the pedal up a little bit. You control the puddle with speed and the pedal both, so coordination of that is what you have to learn. My machine has more high frequency cleaning at low pedal, so sometimes I get better results by dialing the current up high and backing way off the pedal. Modern machines sometimes let you adjust the HF separately for greater cleaning or more power.

Cleaning is important with aluminium, you want to get a new stainless steel wire brush dedicated to only cleaning aluminium and use it. Grinding the electrode is important, I use a blunt taper tip for most work, and go to a fine taper tip when I have to do thinner stuff. Learning to not dip the electrode is critical and hard, the polarization of the electrode when welding aluminium seems to sometimes suck the puddle right up, you swear you were no where near it, but there it is all over your tip. If that happens just stop, break off the contaminated bit and grind a new point. Using a dedicated wheel to grind the electrodes is what you are supposed to do, but I just use my normal wheel. You can buy electrode sharpeners.

Helium or a helium mix is really only needed for added penetration when welding heavier pieces. I use straight argon for everything. The helium gives a way hotter arc.

Have fun, let us know how it turns out!

Brian
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 5:48 pm:   

Thanks Brian I've been certified several decades ago and slowly it is coming all back, I bought a harbour freight crap machine it welded my stainless tanks good enough but I can't do aluminium due to the fact that it only has DC output> I returned it. I don't care for the new inverter machines I heard the logic boards are prone to failure so I will keep my eye open for an old school heavy as hell machine that never breaks. I will certainly keep up the updates and I'm glad I have you also here to bounce questions off while I derust my skills. Thanks again
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 6:24 pm:   

Hey guys i bought a miller 140 I did a little welding in my misspent youth Strictly stick But some is comeing back. still useing Flux wire though. Have not tryed gas as yet. Get a lot of splatter though What is causing it????
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 6:29 pm:   

Sandy
That splatter is the flux core. Once you get the gas shield that will be gone.

Brice
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 11:31 pm:   

Hey Sandy a close up picture of one of your welds provides lots of visual clues. Well I missed the Ebay auction for a Lincoln tig machine but maybe just as well, Brian you got me thinking that maybe I should just get over the China fear syndrome and look into purchasing an inverter based machine since size and weight will be and advantage. I found this on Craigslist and it fits my budjet with a tolerable amount of pain. what do you guys think.http://tucson.craigslist.org/tls/2309073336.html
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 11:51 pm:   

Most of the China made stuff the duty cycle sucks I see that one is only 35% My Lincoln is 100%
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 11:55 pm:   

which model do you have? I found the smallest Miller for tig Is $1,800. ouch
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 12:12 am:   

Ouch! This maybe one of those things where you spend a bundle to get garbage or you spend 2 bundles to get what you need. Too bad you dont live closer, we could go in halves on the Tig.... I got a few things I'd like to do in alu too. But for me, Im going to take a class at the college and hope to get help and use their expen$ive machines....
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 8:15 am:   

Without doing a ton of research, that one ticks off most of the boxes for me. I personally have about a 10% duty cycle when I am welding, most of the time is spent fixturing the work, cleaning, moving things around so you can weld the other side, grinding a new tip on the electrode, finding a new rod... That said, for me a welder is a tool, and I buy tools to work. I personally buy from my local professional welding supply house and I buy the brand they sell so that I have ready access to parts and support. I don't buy over the internet because I want to support my local merchant. Yeah, I do spend more than I need to but get it back over 20 years.

But if you want to weld Al, I would take a chance on that welder if the guy can convince you he will warranty and support it. That is very much the style and type of machine that I would buy these days, just that mine would be red or blue and say Lincoln or Miller on it, most probably :-)

BTW, you can weld Al DC but it's a total and complete PITA. Mig is DC, after all. The word of warning I always give new weldors with a small Mig machine is that Mig is the easiest way to get a great looking weld with no penetration and zero strength. Learn how to get good penetration, and do test pieces until you get it absolutely right. You usually need more voltage, and more wire speed than you are comfortable using, and you tend to blow holes in things until you get used to controlling the puddle and the heat.
Cheers, Brian
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 8:23 am:   

I forgot to add about flux-core wire feed (it's not actually Mig unless there is a gas involved). If you have a dual use machine, flux or gas, there is usually a way to set the polarity of the electrode. Flux core should be electrode negative, Mig should be electrode positive. Might help with spatter, but flux core is a dirty process. Very useful outside though.

Brian
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 10:18 am:   

two months ago i went to buy 2 storage cabinets for my shop while there the fellow offered me a esob plamsa cutter that cuts to 5/8 and a miller 210 wire weed complete with spool gun , 2 large, 2 small, and 1 spool of al. wire and a shoe box of new tips and parts for the cutter and welder.the esob is 1 1/2 years old and welder 6 months. he had his lawyer the and his crack head druggie x wife came by and wanted money NOW, he asked me how much cash i had and i said $500, he said good give it to me and sigh this paper stating i gave it to my wife and the lawyer will also sign alone with these other 2 people and the welder and the cutter are yours. he kept the tank and the way he was looking at his x wife he might have used it for a anchor. that is how i got mine, was it a good deal???????????
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 4:55 pm:   

Mel

methinks you hit the jackpot!!!!!
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 5:00 pm:   

I think that Mel is a THIEF!!! Taking advantage of a druggie. Go FOR IT!! They have programs to help people like in need!

Gomer
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 8:14 pm:   

No the fellow was not on drugs but his wife sure was and the 3 people with her were so high that they could hardly see. i phoned him back to see if he wanted the machines back and he said NO that the $500 saved him a huge amount as the paper she and rest of us signed cleared him of any more payments to her.
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 8:24 pm:   

s near as I can find you are looking at a machine that ONLY runs on 220v AC input.....
2011 Everlast PowerTig 185 MICRO AC/DC Tig WELDER

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The 185 has been in the works for some time. We debuted it last year at the show, but it is in production for Christmas delivery. We wanted to make sure everything was right, and it took backseat to some other products. It will feature basic AC/DC TIG with AC balance control and Frequency control and 35% duty cycle. It will retail at 849.00.
Seems another 50$ should get a brand spankin...

http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=46224
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 11:35 pm:   

Is Hobart a good name? Will a Tig do for mig type welding...... the reason im asking is because I just came across a brand new Hobart Tigwave 350 ac/dc for 1280.00

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Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 9:53 am:   

Hobart used to be an excellent name but I haven't heard much from them lately, they were also known as Thermadyne. That machine might be able to be modified to be a power source for wirefeed welding, but I wouldn't try. It's also a very big machine, it will want a minimum of 100 amp at 240 volt input, and it really wants 150 amps. It's way too much. It needs water cooling as well, so you would have to plumb in a water supply/return. Even for free, i wouldn't have that machine even though it's a good choice if I were to go into industrial fabrication of dump truck bodies, for example. It would cost me about $5K to get a new dedicated 200 amp service installed so I could turn it on without causing a brown out in my house... My 185 amp machine has a dedicated 50 amp outlet, which restricts the duty cycle and I can't turn it up all the way, and it causes the lights to dim in the house when I weld.

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Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 10:56 am:   

Here is a neat machine for 2 grand www.multiplaz.com
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Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 12:30 pm:   

here is the one I'm buying http://www.everlastgenerators.com/PowerTig--200DX-351-pd.html
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 10:05 pm:   

OK my new toy arrived today http://www.everlastgenerators.com/PowerTig-225-LX-352-pd.html I will start tomorrow, reports on my progress or the bonfire with a bus in the middle will follow.
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 12:03 am:   

Cool Fooey!! Keep us updated on your progress :-)
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 11:00 pm:   

Foo
looks like a great unit. Let us know how well it works for you.
Many might be interested.

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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 12:17 am:   

Metal cornfuses me but I have metal that needs to be worked with,, maybe I'll try to find a class at a local night school that will teach me to weld, wood I understand but metal cornfuses me.
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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 1:01 am:   

I used it today built my support structure for the shower and the welder was smooth and stable. I am now armed with a new toy and a list of things that need to be stuck together, filled, and patched. the caterpillar begins to morph. YAAYY
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Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 11:14 pm:   

Did you get good Penetration Fooey?

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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 2:31 am:   

OH yeah Baby. always. great puddle control as well.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 6:11 pm:   

Puddle?? That sounds familiar!! LOL

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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 2:00 pm:   

he means piddle.....
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 11:06 pm:   

everyone that has seen it so far is very impressed.
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 4:46 pm:   

Bring it by and I'll take a look at the REAL thang LOL Then I will test your updated skills, so git in practice bro LOL

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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 11:25 pm:   

(he means piddle.....) no Teresa that I do with a different tool
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 1:03 pm:   

Tool or play toy?
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 1:48 pm:   

depends on several factors but that is REALLY off topic
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Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 5:27 pm:   

T Puddle is a term in welding that means the metal you are welding together melts at a certain heat point and basically blends together as one making a "Puddle". If you are good at it you can control that puddle and move it back and forth to make a bead ( which looks like rope). If you are really good you can hold it just at the right speed to not only weld the metals together but to penetrate to the other side in the middle of the puddle to be a very strong weld.

Now if you are to slow you will blow a hole in that aforementioned puddle and ruin the weld and if you are to fast you will make a nice looking rope with no penetration and the 2 pieces will eventually break apart as in bad weld.

So there you go your first welding lessen.

Chromie
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Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 11:02 pm:   

:-):-)...
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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 1:13 pm:   

AHH Chromie I was taught that in welding 101 about 32 years ago. get on the right speed here this thread is or was heading into smut until you came along and piddled in it. Chuck get that silly smirk off my thread. :-)
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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 2:45 pm:   

Thirty two years ago (many prior and since, BTW) I failed at "something". Life's a learning curve, day by day, situation by situation, question (answer) by question (answer),or??? :-) :-) :-)

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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 3:46 pm:   

HE HE HE

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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 2:00 am:   

Fooey,
that wasn't for you it was for T because she is just learning and I thought maybe she might really not know what puddle meant.

OK I will stop being so serious.

So is the machine any good or does it just Blow Holes in your shower thingy?

Chromie
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 9:00 am:   

There you go again attacking my welding skills (does it blow holes) just because part of my bus is now a little crunchy does not give you the right to assume that I don't know how to weld. I'd like to see the experts here fuse steel aluminium wood and plastic in one slightly dark mass. who told you about the fire, Jack no doubt.
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 5:35 pm:   

Fooey;
Nope, but thanks you just told me about the fire and please elaberate!!! Do tell... and now that I know, how were"the welds" did you blow holes in the WOOD, ROLMAO {:-)> SIS,Sis,Sis

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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 12:40 pm:   

Dave, I think it was those wood welding rods I sold him... I told him they were only for Cedar, but I think he insisted on using them for Yellow Pine!
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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 2:46 pm:   

Dal that was the problem. You told him it was for Cedar and he has them in his Back Pocket. What are we going to do with him, Can't take him anywhere its just so embarrassing.

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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 4:14 pm:   

consider the source!! LOL How many times have we welded wood and steel and aluminium together and found that we were using the wrong rod, Ghee Do we need a rocket scientist to help us?

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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 5:52 pm:   

:-)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 6:25 pm:   

Gomer Is that Rod the 1381 with Glue-Flux and Alumin-night, steel-shield?

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Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 6:50 pm:   

YES THAT IS THE ONE!! They are hard to find around here tho! I believe the flea markets sells them when they weld the cans and wood together.

Gomer
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