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Michael & Cydny (Mjcruisin) (63.234.127.147)
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I need to replace the flooring in my 4104. I know it is a complicated process. Any advice from someone who has done it. |
Marvin (65.35.116.113)
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Why not use a synthetic composite instead of
plywood ? Costs about the same ,1/3 the weight ,
and 10 times the strength .
Not harmed by water, bugs , or chemicals .
. |
Dale and LaShawn Hendricks (Lamichelle37) (24.26.195.228)
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Hey Marvin,
I am redoing the floor of my MC5a. What kind of material are you talking about and where can I sample some? If you don't mind my asking. Thank you. |
Nick Morris (Nick3751) (65.117.139.135)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 6:39 pm: | |
Do tell Marvin, I may have to put a floor in my 3751, not sure yet. |
Marvin (65.35.116.113)
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Composite flooring is made by Penske Composites
in TN and several other company's.
I picked up a sample from a custom home builder
in PA and discussed this with several of the bus
conversion company's . They all knew about it ,
but left it up to the customer to ask the right
questions .
The weight savings and the unbelievable strength
got my attention quick .
Hope this helps
. |
Nick Morris (Nick3751) (65.117.139.135)
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Marvin I've seen composite boards at home improvement places is that what we're talking about or is there composite ply wood? |
Luke Bonagura (Lukeatuscoach) (12.75.174.87)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 9:06 pm: | |
Hi Michael & Cydny:
You do not mention whether you have to replace the entire "wood" floor or just one area??
I would offer the following: The wood floor in your GM Coach is part of the total structural integrity of the coach. Namely, the "Floor" keeps the Box in Square.
With that in mind, the flooring must attach the side walls and the structure under the floor, so that the total coach structure is maintained.
In our shop we use plywood and the original flooring fasteners that GM used!!!!
I do not have experience with the new composite materials, but would offer that since you are replacing the flooring in a 4104, and they were built from 1953 to 1960, then you are probably replacing the original plywood which is anywhere from 43 to 50 years old. And YES, it lasted that long!!!!, including many years operating in commercial service!!!!
That being the case, if I were spending my money, I would go for the most cost effective approach.
If you want additional info., hit on my name at the top of this post to E-Mail me.
I Hope this HELPS!!!
Happy & SAFE Bussin to ALL!!!!
LUKE at US COACH |
Bandco (64.228.167.140)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 9:55 pm: | |
Marvin :
'FEATHERS'
Could this 'Picture of a Composite Board' made by Penske Composites
be the sample you are talking about, at:
http://springfield.news-leader.com/specialreports/innovationintheozarks/1102-Featherfib_4.jpg
Well if it's the one, it's built with 'Feathers!'
--*This is a low-density Featherfiber composite board sample made by
Penske Composites. The Tennessee-based company is developing a
new product line with implications for the building, boating and
recreational-vehicle industries. • The core is chopped feather quill.
The skin is a thin layer of spun Fiberglas, and the bonding agent is a
closed-cell form of urethane.
In the middle of this page for the complete story
http://springfield.news-leader.com/specialreports/innovationintheozarks/1102-Featherfib-205351.html |
madbrit (67.136.121.168)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 12:13 am: | |
You would think that Featherlite would be the inventor of featherboard or at least use it, just seems so right........ LOL.
Peter. |
madbrit (67.136.121.168)
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Is this composite board the same as MDF (medium density fiberboard)?
Peter. |
Marvin (65.35.116.113)
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That is the product .
My thought was to improve strength and save
weight . There is nothing wrong with plywood
but the weight . Some of the conversion guys
are now using a lightweight Italian made plywood
to save weight .
The particle board composite that is at Home
Depot should never be used in a bus . It is
really heavy and will hold water like a sponge .
When Nick & Terri were converting their bus ,
they used a product from Radiant Technology
with good results .
. |
BrianMCI96A3 (65.40.153.194)
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I agree with Marvin, MDF is a really bad idea for a coach, especially when it has the possibility of a water leaking on it.
MDF in a wet environment will turn BACK into saw dust mush in short order.
AND as Marvin suggests, it is heavy as H**L compared to plywood.
Brian |
roderick W. Chandler (172.134.95.62)
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Try elfproducts.com. They make All-A-Board for marine use.HTH |
StarDust (67.3.155.28)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:15 pm: | |
4104 Floor
I am in the process of redoing mine . What I am doing is covering the hole floor with 3/4 tonge & grove ply.Taking all the outside bolts out and bolting thru with elavator bolts both layers. the ones the are in the channel I am re drilling and taping thru both layer of ply in between the orignal bolts |