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Roderick Chandler (172.140.25.217)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 2:51 pm: | |
Can anyone tell me about this engine? How does it compare in power to 8V92 or 6V92? Is it a reliable engine? Lastly why are most of the L-10s connected to standard trannys? Thanks for any info. I am looking at 102C3SS that has this engine. |
Jimmci9 (209.240.205.60)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 4:25 pm: | |
the l-10 is a good mid-range engine... 6 cylinder inline 10 liter....either mechanical or electronic controlled.... less than 350 hp..most of the 1's ive worked on ave been 310 hp.... mainly in city delivery trucks....ive seen several mated to allison transmissions..... its an easy engine to work on....very simple fuel system... |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.38.173)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 9:05 pm: | |
I've been told they can be pumped to 400hp with the fuel pump and injector adjustments, don't know this to be a fact. Most I have seen in buses were t-drive, but Grumman/Flx used them transverse w/v-drive. I wonder if they came in LH versions or did they use a reversing gear ahead of the tranny? |
Terrance A.Haag (Mrbus) (152.163.252.163)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 11:07 pm: | |
Roderick,
We purchased four 102C3 with the Cummins L 10 engine , two in 1989, and two in 1991 three of them were equipped with ZF transmissions, and one had a manual 5 speed, the only reason we had the 5 speed was because it was coming down the line at MCI along with the one we had ordered, and whoever ordered it failed to get the financing, so MCI made us an offer we could not refuse.
From an owners, and maint. view point, they were a fantastic little engine, all the drivers hated them, due to their lack of power. Three were rated at 270 HP and one with the aftercooler was 330 HP, just about equal to a good 8V71 in power.
Even if you are not familiar with what an aftercooler looks like it is easy to spot these coaches because the radiator is mounted on the back, and it looks as if it has two radiators, but the one on the drivers side is the aftercooler.
At 450,000 miles, we dropped the oil pans and replaced the rod and main bearings,(they really did not need it, but they were already apart, so we replaced them. The five speed was lunched by a driver going off Mt. Eagle, he simply shifted down to fourth and let it overwind until it came apart. The other three have been almost bullet proof, and average 7.1 MPG for an annual average.
Two of these coaches now have in excess of 700,000 miles and are just about due for a major rebuild, or more likely a trade in.
Yes you can significantly increase the horse power, but just as in racing, tell me how much money you have and I will tell you how fast you can go.
Gus Haag |
Jim OHMC9 (209.190.8.180)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 3:58 pm: | |
I drive for one of the major LTL Trucking Co's.We had them in Ford Louisville Trucks and they didn't do the job for use,and the mechanics called them trow away engines. That was in 1988-89 |
Phil Curtis (64.136.26.228)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 6:01 pm: | |
Drove them in shakeees for years can be boosted up to 410 hp the L10/11 manual 300hp draged 80.000 lbs all over the USA never blow anything but a air compress.Sold it with a 1.300.000 miles on it. |
BrianMCI96A3 (65.40.150.96)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 7:57 pm: | |
We have several L10's in our fleet and we have have very little trouble with them, over the years.
We have had only two or three L10's that needed serious attention, and those were defintely operator related.
One started spewing oil all over the cab when it was over-revved coming down off Mt. Charleston.
Another came down off the mountain the same way.
One was probably over-revved and it broke a pushrod...
I believe as a group our mechanics feel the L10 is anything but a throwaway engine.
Brian |
Roderick W. Chandler (172.139.152.42)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 9:31 am: | |
Sounds like these may be a little under powered. |