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Chuck Lott (67.33.176.141)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 6:51 am:   

OK-So now I'm finally ready to put up headliner. I've gotten my cement and a cheap spray gun.
Any tips, such as thinning the glue from spraying from someone who has done this job? thanks Chuck Lott
Steve Gibbs (12.148.43.7)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 8:12 am:   

Chuck,

Any time you work with contact cement in large amounts ,like putting up the headliner, a respirator with a organic vapor cartridge is a must for anyone inside. Those fumes will get to you and your helpers quickly.

If you intend to spray, you will need a full-face respirator to protect your eyes.

You can get the respirator from labsafety.com or others like it on the web or from home depot. However, be sure to follow the instructions because if you do not have a proper fit you will still be sucking in the fumes.

Now, about spraying in such a confined area. I would worry about raising the flamability of the product and maybe even creating an explosive atomosphere. However, this is just a guess on my part.

Best thing to do is visit the manufacturers website and download the Material Safety Data Sheet or MSDS. It will provide lots of information regarding both fire and health safety issues.

The fumes I know from experience. I started working on applying contact cement on a small area in the rear and on the piece of headliner I was preparing to attach to the ceiling. I almost did not make it out of the bus while I could still walk.

HTH
Steve G.
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Jim (66.74.2.17)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 9:18 am:   

Why Spray? I have used a roller several times and it worked well. With contact cement you have a lot of "open" time and there is no need for the exta work and mes of spraying. Just roll it on your surface - then roll it on your covering. WAIT until dry to feel - then install. Be careful to not press the cement through the fabric.
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.52.14)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 9:46 am:   

Last time I came up w/ an idea to reverse roll the ozite, put it on a roller and pole on a set of long stands that I made of 2x4, which supported the roll up near the cieling. I just sprayed out 5-6 foot sections and walked the liner stands as I went. Yes, use a good respirator and you will never know your in the stuff until you remove the respirator (then get out) Took me abt. 5 hrs. by myself. Had the windows open and a big ventilator fan at the front door. This is one of those good jobs; frequent brakes advisable and doing the section method with the carpet suspended works right into that.
Lee Brady (Leeb11) (69.19.129.51)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 9:52 am:   

Chuck
I sprayed contact cement for my headliner and
you dont need to thin it.
You need to spray the section you are working
at and then the headliner piece and then just put it up.The work goes quick.I had no problems with fumes but do wear eye protectionand cover anything you dont want over spray to get on.
Use a low air pressure setting around 45-50 psi it will push the cement out just fine.and make sure you clean the gun with mineral sprits after or it wil plug up.
Lee 66 01
BrianMCI96A3 (69.34.195.205)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:40 am:   

I agree with Steve, if you spray the glue you will be spraying a highly flammable concoction, that can also cause unconsiousness in a hurry within a confined space.

Use all the ventilation you can get, opening all the windows you can, and fans.

I'd have to think no electric heaters would be wise, and certainly no open flames.

While it might be possible to do it without any precaution at all, the insurance is cheap...

Brian
Peter Broadribb (Madbrit) (67.136.87.158)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:51 am:   

What about the possibility of a static spark, especially if using poly sheeting to mask areas or wearing nylon/acrylic type overalls?

I think the bus should be outside and all windows open with a fan blowing the fumes out, not sucking them in case of a fan motor spark.

Not wishing to be pessamistic, but it is always the thing you forget or don't account for that bites you in the ass.

Peter.
BrianMCI96A3 (69.34.195.205)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:44 pm:   

Peter, ain't THAT the truth!

Brian
Chuck Lott (67.33.176.141)

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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:43 pm:   

FWIW, I plan to use a roller inside the bus on the plywood and spray the material (foam backed vinyl) outside. I'm using 54" wide material, ran crossways of the bus with divider strips between pieces.
This was the method in the new crashed Airstream trailer that I salvaged. I hope I can make it look as well.
Thanks for the replies. Chuck LOtt

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