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mel 4104 (208.181.100.19)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 10:54 am: | |
I am looking for info on the MOUSE TRAP that GM used and also what model of buses that it was used on. How did you like them and what are the down side to them. FFdo you have one on your bus? thanks for any help you can give . mel 4104 |
Jayjay (152.163.252.163)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 7:19 pm: | |
All 8V71's had them. Lie them? I don't have much of a choice, and I wouldn't consider operating without mine. Downside? There is none! ...JJ |
RJ Long (Rjlong) (66.229.97.200)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 12:22 am: | |
Mel -
The mousetraps were first installed on the 4106 and later model GMCs w/ the 8V71 engines and manual transmissions, as JJ said. IIRC, this also includes Fishbowl transits of the same vintage ordered with a manual box.
If you're not already aware, the 8V71-powered GMCs have the bevel gearset between the clutch and the transmission, not like your 4104, which has the bevels after the gearbox. With this different powertrain configuration, GM mounted the mousetrap on the gearbox of these coaches.
This is not to say that one wouldn't work on a 4104, I believe Bart V. out of British Columbia has a modified one on his coach.
Advantage: When ALL the clutch linkage is properly adjusted by DA BOOK, it makes the clutch almost as light as a VW Bug (first generation, not a New Beetle).
Disadvantage: When the springs lose their tension, the clutch gets real heavy.
Fast Fred does have one on his 4106, as do I.
HTH,
RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA |
J Meyers (68.251.229.191)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 12:23 am: | |
RJ
You stated that the 8v-71 powered GMCs had the Mousetrap installed on the gearcase. Did this also include the 4107s with the wet clutch?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
J Meyers |
RJ Long (Rjlong) (66.229.97.200)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 1:08 am: | |
J -
TTBOMK, the 4106s, 4107s, 4108s, 4903s and 4905s with manual gearboxes all came with the mousetrap, regardless of wet or dry clutch.
HTH,
RJ |
Steve Toomey (66.109.234.28)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 10:41 pm: | |
I guess mine needs adjusted, since it tires me out sitting at a light! Now that I have Da Book, I guess I better use it!
Steve Toomey
PAbusnut |
FAST FRED (65.150.247.16)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 5:17 am: | |
The mousetrap is not in Da Big Book,
Only in the Suppliment , at least for '06's.
FAST FRED |
J Meyers (68.253.13.231)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 1:20 pm: | |
I have the maintance and the parts manual for our 4107. We have the wet clutch with manual transmission. I can find no mention of the mousetrap in either one.
Our bus does not have the mousetrap installed on it, must have been an option . I guess their must be a supplement for the 4107 too?
To RJ
If you would be so kind as to tell us where our bus started it,s life we would greatly appreciate it. PD4107-1076
Thanks Again in advance
J Meyers |
RJ Long (Rjlong) (66.229.97.200)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 9:17 am: | |
PD4107-1076 was delivered new as fleet number 579 in February of 1968 to Ohio Rapid Transit (Lake Shore System) of Columbus, OH.
RJ |
J Meyers (68.254.50.74)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 1:27 am: | |
RJ
Thanks for the info on our bus ,nice to know where she started out.
Does Anyone have pictures of the mousetrap installed on the 8v-71 powered GMC ,that they could post a link to? To see what all it involves.
Thanks
J Meyers |