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David Clark (Dclark) (24.197.82.121)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 1:14 pm: | |
Assume MCI MC-9. 1. Is it nuts to leave all windows in place, but replace with good windows (such as those mentioned earlier -- Peninsula...) David Clark |
TWO DOGS (65.179.209.127)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 1:43 pm: | |
think the best thing for you to do is find a bus already converted...5000.00 & up....if you don't have that much money drive your ford till you do..keep looking on ebay...it's o.k. to "say" ebay isn't it I@N ??? Editor's Note: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9... well alright... this time! |
CoryDane RTSII (66.155.188.80)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 3:46 pm: | |
The common conversion has the design of keeping only a few windows in the front, a couple in the bedroom area and a small window for the kitchen and bath, maybe. There are some buses that keep all the windows in place, supporting the original bus look as well as flooding the interior with light, avoiding the "Cave" like interior spaces. Of these, some do change out the window and some will use the original windows, all depending on what type of use you have in mind for the bus. One of the reasons windows are taken out and only a few are put back in is to keep the coach cool in the summer and warm in the winter, the insulation value is priority if you will live in the coach and go to very cold areas and very hot areas in your travels. The more windows left in, if they are insulated windows or not, and how well you have insulated the interior of the coach will support how comfortable you will be inside the coach. There is a reason for every change you make in a conversion, its not all looks. "Imagine Your Dreams" cd |
Jim-Bob (205.188.116.148)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 8:30 am: | |
Do not leave any windows in that will be covered on the insude such that you will not be able to open them. You will someday need to address leaks or cracked glass. I have a bus now that has this problem. You have to be able to open the entire window in "escape" mode to be able to replace individual sliding sections or the whole glass if a non opening window. |
Rodger in WA (64.70.24.67)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 10:43 am: | |
Best to remove the old windows, reskin and install quality thermopane rv type windows where you want them. Quality windows are essential for comfortable living in hot or cold weather. Peninsulas are an excellent choice. I love mine. |
David Clark (Dclark) (24.197.82.121)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 6:55 pm: | |
So, I will pose the question again. We will assume the windows are replaced with Peninsula. Is it nuts to leave ALL windows in place? David Clark |
TWO DOGS (65.179.201.47)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 7:49 pm: | |
nope |
Jimmci9 (209.240.205.68)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 9:52 pm: | |
aluminum siding or steel siding will weigh alot less than glass... siding can be insulated better...less weight = better fuel mileage, less wear on the coach etc... |
David Clark (Dclark) (24.197.82.121)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 10:06 pm: | |
Jimmci9 This is a good point. Thanks. David Clark |
ChuckMC9 (Chucks) (66.167.165.73)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 10:29 pm: | |
Alright, I'm gonna try to sound like I know what I'm talking about for just one post and then revert to my slightly post-newbie status... One of the most respected of the professional converters left all the windows in place for most (all?) of its offerings. (they may not have had other options in those days, I don't know. It wasn't *that* long ago) I don't doubt for a minute that the preceding posts are spot-on when it comes to insulation value, however at least in my Phase I I'm planning to *use* that panoramic view for all it's worth. Who knows, a year from now I may be scampering to get siding up! And I have some fairly wierd ideas on how I'm gonna prevent the 'rooms' from blocking them as much as possible. |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.50.202)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 3:05 am: | |
Let's see here, full windows in the bath area? Oh y eah, what a view. Or, we can skin them over inside. Makes a lot of sense to have a window that is permanently skinned inside! Stock windows are generally junk, (there are some exceptions to that), so remove them if they're junk or in "inconvenient places", skin it over outside and insulate it well inside. Time, money, and comfort gains to be had. |
David Clark (Dclark) (24.197.82.121)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:14 pm: | |
James - Do you have a window in your bathroom at home? I do, and like it. Just curious. Not sure what area of the country you live in, but down South we have curtains. David Clark |
TWO DOGS (63.185.65.204)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:19 pm: | |
duuhhh...do ya' have a window behind your refrigerator |
David Clark (Dclark) (24.197.82.121)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:30 pm: | |
Double Dogs, No, as a matter of fact, I don't. But if I did, I don't know that I'd rip the wall out and change it, particularly if I had to choose between expending time/money on that versus something else more critical. I might, though. (side note for you: have emailed you, but no answer?) David Clark |
ChuckMC9 (Chucks) (66.167.95.25)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:40 pm: | |
duuhhh...do ya' have a window behind your refrigerator OK, now you are going to realllly throw rotten tomatoes... YES. TWO commercial-grade under-counter fridge's, side-by-side. OK, throw stuff at me. Of course, the argument is that it is hard on the knees/back to be stooping down all the time. And yes, it is also hard on the arms to be carrying batteries. But for my current elec needs, I move the house batteries back and forth from the bus (located in a place without power) to the PP for charging every few days. And people pay $50/mo to go to a health club and work on stoopid exercise machines in a stinky flourescently lighted loud gym when they could just be stooping and stretching and carrying batteries more often!!! |
TWO DOGS (63.185.81.137)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 2:18 pm: | |
how 'bout behind the shower..do you have a window...bet that looks great from the outside...I guess that's why some people block off them there winders |
ChuckMC9 (Chucks) (66.167.95.25)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 8:55 pm: | |
FROSTED on those ones, Bubba! Covered with one of them stick-on fake stained glass appliques. |
H3JIm (68.105.107.136)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 9:31 pm: | |
A good philosophy is to make everything so it can be repaired after the coach is completed. Generally, a window needs access to the inside of the coash to be replaced. The rule of luck is that any window that you build some thing in front of will be the one that gets broken. The other points seem to be insulation value and to a minor degree weight. Its not nuts to leave them in though. We all make tradeoffs of all kinds when we are building our coaches. Almost every decision has its tradeoffs, some just have more serious consequences than others. If you would rather spend your time and $ right now doing other things on the coach, then just do them. |