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| Bill Holstein (Billmoocow)
Registered Member Username: Billmoocow Post Number: 159 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 24.21.114.17  Rating: N/A |
I am ready to install a block heater by the dip stick where the square plate. Anything i should expect when i take off that square plate on the 8v71? The heater did not come with instructions. Any words of wisdom on this would be helpful thanks. | ||
| Laryn Christley (Barn_owl)
Registered Member Username: Barn_owl Post Number: 722 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 108.15.213.71  Rating: N/A |
Never start your engine with the heater on or you will be doing the job again. The hard knock from the diesel ignition will break the heater's internal filament (Fragile when hot, just like an incandescent bulb). BTDT. I would think your instructions say as much, minus the explanation which I had to get from the manufacture's tech support. | ||
| Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
Registered Member Username: Bill_gerrie Post Number: 544 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 216.198.139.38  Rating: N/A |
Bill Just make sure it doesn't hit anything when bolted in. Hold it in place lined up with the bolt holes and move around. It should move in all directions just enough to clear anything inside. Bill | ||
| Laryn Christley (Barn_owl)
Registered Member Username: Barn_owl Post Number: 724 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 108.15.213.71 Rating: N/A |
Bill mentioned another good way to shorten the life of one. Let the element touch something in the block (even a rust sickle) and the uneven temps and stresses it causes on the element will burn it out prematurely. Otherwise they are difficult to screw up. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1587 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 75.58.183.66  Rating: N/A |
Looking at the eliment , you would not think it will go in. But its does easily , and on a road tour we start the heat as soon as getting in the camp site . In the AM the 8V starts as if it was just shut down, sounds like 1/2 turn but probably is longer. FF | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 1268 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 184.10.191.147 Rating: N/A |
If the heater is DD OEM it won't install but one way,the OEM will have a removable cord good luck | ||
| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 631 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.165.176.62  Rating: N/A |
Just out of curiosity is there an advantage to the crankcase type vs the type that heats the coolant? I have coolant heaters on both my 6-71 and generator and love them so far. Usually I just turn the main engine one on when I go to bed and the engine always lights in half a turn | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 676 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 184.0.13.120  Rating: N/A |
The coolant heater keeps the oil in the block warm, decreasing cold oil drag, plus it keeps the pistons warm = larger = better compression. Warm block, heads, blower means warmer intake air so easier starting (ice cold air makes very hard starting.) The oil heater keeps the oil warm & thin but does not do much of the above. | ||
| Tom Christman (Tchristman)
Registered Member Username: Tchristman Post Number: 334 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.218.33.156 Rating: N/A |
The only disadvantage to the Allison automatic, is it usually uses that square plate for the trans cooler-hence making the electric block heater impossible to use. You could use an electric shell cooler, but those are expensive. When I'm in cold, I just put my 750watt halogen work lamp under the engine the night before and it heats it quite nicely. Cheapest engine heater possible. Good Luck, TomC | ||
| Dan Clishe (Cody)
Registered Member Username: Cody Post Number: 239 Registered: 1-2008 Posted From: 206.51.117.126 Rating: N/A |
Up here I don't know of any one that uses anything but a coolant heater, most not only heat the coolant but also circulate it thru the engine, I have them on all my vehicles and have used them since I was young without any problems. Most car dealerships up here even add them to the cars and trucks while prepping them for sale if they don't already have one, it's pretty much a standard item up here if you have a need or want to get to work in the winter mornings. | ||
| Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
Registered Member Username: Bill_gerrie Post Number: 546 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 216.198.139.38 Rating: N/A |
Tom It is possible to make your own plate and get the block heater in as well as a pipe fiting welded in. Very close but doable. Bill | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 1269 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 184.10.191.147 Rating: N/A |
There is no need to do that Bill the 8v71 has a plug in the front right hand side to remove to install a engine heater also, DD sell both types fwiw |