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Gary LaBombard (Garylee) (64.12.116.135)

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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 9:05 am:   

I am requesting a definite addressing to what the proper Eagle height of (12"-14 1/2")should be set at when changing from 11R X 22.5 tires to 11R X 24.5 tires. I want to be properly adjusted for height, safety and maxium ride comfort after my conversion is complete. I plan to try and adjust to the 14 1/2 maxium height if possible and be sure I am not over exerting the adjustment rod to it maxium. I am just in the dark over the added height of the new larger tires and can't help thinking there has to be a different adjustment because of this. Thanks ahead of time, Gary
BrianMCI96A3 (65.40.153.206)

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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 10:23 am:   

Knowing next to nothing about Eagles I'll still take a stab at this question.

Because the axles and wheels of any vechile (at least any I can think of) are unsprung weight, or in other words, the suspension or torsilastics are not carrying that load, then I think it is safe to say that if you set the torsilastics up properly for 22.5 you will have them set up properly for 24.5 (so long as you have no tire clearance issues), and you should then have pretty much the same ride comfort going down the road.

Brian
BrianMCI96A3 (65.40.153.206)

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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 10:29 am:   

And if that is right, the 24.5's should only add an inch in height.

Brian
David Anderson (168.215.176.227)

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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 12:15 pm:   

Gary, I copied and pasted this message below from the website listed below:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eagle-bus-nuts/

I went to the "message" section and typed in message number "2589" and the list of messages came up on my screen. You have to be a member to get to this section, which I assume you are because you also posted your question at the yahoo/eagle busnut group area, also.

Good Luck

David
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From: "Randel W. Gilmore"
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2001 12:24 pm
Subject:






Hello All well I finally got my but to Tejas shop the do the roof work. I
never received any input on whether or not to raise the roof! Are there any
Pros and con's whether or not to raise it and if so what are they?
need to know something he will start pulling my caps next week and if I'm
going to raise it I need to let him know so he can get the caps.
Thanks Randel
-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Webber [mailto:strtracer@s...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 11:14 AM
To: eagle-bus-nuts@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eagle-bus-nuts] tire size, wheel size?


matpal:

Not to worry. I've been to this movie and converted from 22.5 to 24.5
all the way around about 5 years ago. Sorry to say I have misplaced my
Goodyear tire book and would have preferred to give you actual load
ratings, but you can get that info from your local truck tire dealer.

Assuming you were to compare 16 ply or 14 ply rated tires apples to
apples, you will find that 11R22.5 and 12R22.5 diameters are only .1 or
.2 of an inch larger than the 22.5 version. So, revolutions per mile
are usually changed from 501 to 499.

24.5 tires have the advantage of slightly higher load-carrying ratings,
and 11R24.5 tires are the most common (and less expensive) tire due to
trucking industry usage.

So, having 11R24.5s on the front gives you a slight improvement in
margin of safety, and you will be able to buy a replacement easier at a
truck stop in any small town. I know, I tried to buy a 22.5 in
Adelanto, California and the tire shop "could order it".

If you plan to keep the 22.5s on the rear for awhile, assuming there is
lots of good rubber left, your spare should be a 22.5. If you use it on
the rear it's the same diameter. If you use it on the front, it doesn't
matter that the left tire revolves 2 revs per mile different than the
right tire.

On the rear, the 12R22.5 tire has a higher load capacity than the
11R22.5 and a wider footprint. This is ideal for the drive axle. The
tag being 11R22.5 is not a problem, as the tags carry less weight than
the maximum load rating of the 11R22.5. Unless you know that the bus
has been weighed recently, it would be a good idea to weigh it to make
sure the Torilastic units are adjust correctly, so as to not overload
any tire.

Be aware that truck tire dealers will ask if you want a "driver" tire or
an "all position" tire. Driver tires are specifically intended to be
used on the drive axle only. They are larger in diameter due to deeper
tread depth. I use all position tires only, as that gives me total
flexibility if I have a flat.

So relax and use that bus !

mattpal@a... wrote:

>Hi all, I'm stumped and would appreciate some help on this. I have
>a recently purchased 1974 Eagle 05. I looked at my wheels today and
>saw that the front wheel size is 11R 24.5, the tag axle was 11R 22.5,
>the back drives are 12R 22.5. Should the front wheels be a different
>size or what? Now, what about my spare tire? All sorts of
>complications come to mind. Should I change this size? Your ideas
>would be a great help.
>
>Thanks, Matt
>
David Anderson (168.215.176.227)

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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 12:19 pm:   

Gary,

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the 22.5 and the 24.5 are the rim hole sizes. The outer diameter of the tire should be the same, I think, but am not sure.

Someone on the board would surely know if that is correct or not. You could stand a 22.5 tire next to a 24.5 tire and find out for sure.

David Anderson
Don KS/TX (66.82.9.17)

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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 5:35 pm:   

Just to add some more confusion, there are 24.5 tires in "lo profile" and "hi tread" Quite a difference in height.
Would you believe when I changed from the original 20 inch tires on my bus to 24.5 lo pros, the diameter DECREASED? Sure did, check the specs.
TWO DOGS (63.185.80.196)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 12:09 am:   

if your ride height is supposed to be 14.5 with 22.5 tires...if you put a one inch taller tire on...your ride height should NOW be 15.5....and I would not lower it "just because "...
BrianMCI96A3 (69.68.96.164)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 12:26 am:   

Lo and behold I agree with TwoD!

In most cases a 24.5 wheel next to a 22.5 wheel ...the difference in size is very noticable.

But the difference in ride height is only an inch, and the effect of that on the torsilastics is negligible.

Brian
TWO DOGS (63.185.80.196)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 12:29 am:   

let me say that a different way....example,say you have 6" of travel from smooth road to big bump...so...you lower your vehicle 1" because you put bigger tires on...o k ...now you have 5" travel....NO...you put on a 1" bigger tire...so ...you have 4" travel...before your tire starts tearing up your bus,& your bus is tearing up your tire
RJ Long (67.181.211.253)

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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 12:43 am:   

Gary -

You don't say which model Eagle you have, but all the sales literature I have for the Model 5, 10, and 15 indicates that 11R24.5s are the OEM tire size.

Which tells me that you need to set the ride height to factory specs AFTER you install the 24.5s.

HTH,

RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA

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