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John Rigby (24.174.238.253)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 10:31 pm:   

When tiling a shower. What materials of construction do you use?Thin set type? Grout type? Do you have to put the concete type board on top of the plywood same as in a house?
Thanks
John
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (68.79.122.176)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 10:43 pm:   

In boats we use Sikaflex, there is a formula just for this kind of installation, that is what I will likely use in my bus.

I haven't decided about backer board though...


Gary
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.133.120.52)

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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 7:28 am:   

Same as a house, except use thinset and grout with the latex admixture. Makes it hold better. No need for plywood before the backer board. Use tarpaper or Bituthane(sp?) as a moisture barrier just like in a house. I have used 1/4" Hardy brand with great success. First coach with over 100K miles and still like new. Two others the same.

When you frame the wall against the outside of the bus, don't connect the corner directly to the bus frame. When the sun heats the skin and the bus expands, it will open up the corner. Connect the corner to the other shower wall and then connect the first stud about 12" away from the corner to the bus frame. This will give enough flex in the tile so it won't open up in the corner.

Jim
TWO DOGS (63.185.81.126)

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Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 10:04 am:   

I was just thinking about tileing....I did a shower stall in Calif. a few years ago....it got into the newspaper...I drew out what I wanted on the wall....got a cardboard box & put some tile in it & smashed it all up with a hammer...put the home depot PL adhesive on the wall& drew with different colors of tile...beautiful picture...then,after a few days drying ,went back with SANDED grout & filled it all in...it turned out lots better than I expected...was a sunburst..that pl adhesive is some good stuff !
steve (12.44.48.40)

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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 10:49 am:   

John,

In the interest of total transparency, I work for Sika. I'll back up Gary's answer and recommend Sikaflex. So I'm not accused of advertising, otehr brands of polyurethane sealant/adhesive will work as well. If you use ours, use Sikaflex 221. Trowel it onto the plywood with a 1/4" notched trowel. Set the tile in place and press firmly. Because of the flexibility and good wetting properties of a polyurethane, I don't think you need to use the backer board. Allow it to fully cure for a couple of days and then grout the tile. You should use silicone or acrylic for any external sealing.

BTW, I did just this sort of application on my bathroom floor a few years ago with great success.
R.C. Bishop (128.123.221.185)

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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 11:02 am:   

Steve..........thanx for your response here. Is 221 available in containers other than caulking gun style?

Sika is a great product. I recommend it highly, as you have perhaps read on this board many times. My supplier was Austin Hardware but I dont recall the availablity of anything other than tubes.

I imagine Ian will move this to the "proper place" now that we have gotten deep into brands..... and suppliers :)
MC - Iv (24.83.128.151)

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Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 1:12 am:   

Steve...... My thanks also for the info on tiling a shower.

My floorplan requires a custom shaped shower and I was concerned about the problems with tiling.

It sounds as though it won't be a big problem at all.
Thanks.
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (68.79.122.176)

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Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 2:30 pm:   

Hey John, thanks for posting the formulation (221) I couldn't remember. I haven't used it myself, but several of my friends have.

They had a 52' Ducktail Mhogany runabout-style (I say runabout style, because 52' is nobody's runabout, it was some rich guy's toy in the late fortys tyough). They did the shower with slate which is VERY prone to cracking, especially in a boat made of boards. To my knowedge, the shower is still holding up.

FYI: they used Sikaflex for the grout too, not sure if they used the same formula or not.

Gary

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