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Dave MCI102 (67.234.231.223)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 3:16 pm: | |
I need to replace my drive and tag axle tires on my MCI 102 A3.
Currently I have Goodyear Intercity Cruisers B315/80R 22.5
I have available 6 Cooper CT 240 in 11R 24.5 from a parts bus of mine or I can purchase something.
The tire dealer wants $450 ea for some Toyo's or $630 ea for Michlin's and I saw something at Sam's Club for $250 ea.
What tire brand should I go with or maybe a better question is what tire will give a good ride and give me the greatest tread life.
The Bus is used for our touring band.
Thank you for your assistance,
David
86 MCI 102A3 ex greyhound |
TWO DOGS (63.156.216.7)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 3:37 pm: | |
prices seem high...cooper,goodyear.,michelin ..all good...and sams probably o.k. get an all position tire...two new ones on front,steer tires to bogies,just a suggestion |
TWO DOGS (63.156.216.7)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 3:38 pm: | |
I'd put those 24.5 on unless they are cracked |
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (63.224.197.10)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 3:51 pm: | |
The best ride will probably be given with the 12R X 22.5 or its metric equal, the 315 by 22.5 or soosss.
However, as you have found, they are also quite $spendy$. Ouch! The fatter tires will also give...
...you a little more carrying capacity, useful on the front axle with the appropriate heavy...
....duty 2-hole steel disk wheels. On the rear and tag axles, one COULD easily go to a less...
....expensive 11R X 22.5 heavy truck-type tire by various manufactures. The downside is that the...
... truck type tires MAY tend to ride a bit harsher. Tire mileage will be about the same.
Your decision. I for one would strongly lean towards bitting the bullet and paying more for the...
...12R X 22.5 or metric equal that came on the coach from the factory. More $$$, but a little bit better tire. Good luck. |
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.129.108.120)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 5:59 pm: | |
I have mixed tires on the steer and drives on my Prevost now and it is not the best situation. As an example, Michelins tend to roll under more than Goodyears so if you have Michelins on front, you need to steer more to get the bus started into the corner but then when the tire stops rolling under, you have to straighten slightly to stop oversteering. This gets real tired after a day.
I will say that Michelins and Firestones are compatible. Don't mix Michelins with Goodyears. It is always best to use the same brand, style and size all around. I'm waiting for the darn Firestones to wear out on my bus now so I can put Goodyears on front to match the backs. Been waiting 4 years. Damn, I hate those tires. They just don't wear out. I'd like them a lot better if I had 8 of them though.
You won't find a tire that rides better than the Goodyear Intercity Coach tire. I used to use their 12.75 R 22.5's until they discontinued them. Paid $550 for the last ones I bought. Not cheap. My advice for you is to buy the best you can afford or justify. They are all good and will weather crack before they wear out. Stick with the 22.5 for the better ride.
I have a Hankook for a spare by the way. Couldn't justify anything more expensive there. I won't be afraid to use it if I have to.
Jim |
Gabby (66.81.141.237)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 12:27 am: | |
Today I put 6 firestone 315/80R22.5 on my 102A3. the cost was $430.00 each out the door including balancing. I went with them because like jim says they dont wear out. I have about 50K miles on the same tire on the 5905 and they still look new with lots of tread. They have been on for about6 years and still no checking. I do put covers over them when I stay in one place for a long time. |
Johnny (4.174.70.37)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 12:53 am: | |
One word: Bandag. |
Earl-8-Ky (207.162.163.19)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 8:57 am: | |
I would not run intercity tires on my bus. They are speed rated for about 50 to 60 MPH and will have a tendency to run hot at highway speeds. Read the side wall info and I believe you will find it printed there. |
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.136.31.120)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 4:26 pm: | |
These tires that Dave and I were talking about were special made for Goodyear lease program for Greyhound, Trailways and other intercity and charter coaches. Not INTRAcity like transits. They were speed rated at 75mph. Sidewall said "For intercity coach only", implying- not for trucks or trailers.
Jim |
DaveD (142.46.199.30)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 3:48 pm: | |
I have 12R x 22.5 Hankooks on my front axle, recaps on the drive and tag axles. The Hankooks were about CA$850.00 (~US$640.00) installed at my place from a mobile tire service. I'm very happy with them.
Dave Dulmage
(MC-8) |
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (65.74.66.104)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 10:42 pm: | |
We've got one of those speed-limited tires on our coach. At first, I was concerned, like some of you, that it would run hot if run too fast.
You can imagine my surprise when I found out that it ran 20 degrees cooler that our regular tires. I got the number using an infrared thermometer.
The tire is 315/80R22.5, rated for 9000 pounds and 55 mph. The other tires are 12R22.5. I run it the same pressure that I run the other tires.
I finally concluded that the manufacturer really needed to make the 9000 pound rating for a particular purpose and got there by limiting the speed that the tire was to be run.
If run faster, that would result in the weight rating being reduced. However, running it with only 4700 pounds instead of 9000, it has no problem staying cool enough.
Anybody have anything that would make this any clearer?
For what it's worth.
Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher |
Johnny (4.174.106.63)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:13 am: | |
Are you sure? I ask because the only low-speed transit tires I've seen are Goodyear Metro Milers in size B305/85R22.5--315/80's seem to be used on the late-model coaches.
Also, the 305/85 is larger that a 12R22.5--about equal to a 12.75R22.5, I think. |
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (65.74.66.104)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 10:35 pm: | |
Johnny, I haven't run any metric sizes on our coach before, so I really don't have much experience with them.
305 mm is right on 12 inches and 315 mm is real close to 12.4 inches. But I don't know if you can just calculate the size or if you have to look it up in a chart.
When I calculate the tire height, going by the nominal sizes, I get almost 1/2 inch more on 305/85R22.5 than I do with 315/80R22.5. That amounts to 1 1/2 inches more circumference.
1 1/2 inches times nearly 500 turns per mile makes nearly 750 inches or 6 revs per mile difference.
The only reason that I went with the tire in the first place is that it was within a couple of turns per mile of the 12R22.5 that wore out.
What do the charts show for these sizes of tires? And what is it that you're asking if I'm sure about? As far as I know, the info in my prior post is accurate.
Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher |