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Nick Morris (Nick3751) (69.68.36.53)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 1:24 pm: | |
I'm planing on using Luan to line the inside of my silversides. I know a lot of you use 3/8 what's the pros and cons of the versus Luan? |
ralph7 (164.87.1.10)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 2:09 pm: | |
I counter sink screws in 1x4 oak (hard wood) lenght of the bus strips and screw 3/8 ply to it. Counter sinking screws do not conduct heat or cold and attract moisture to interior. It can (3/8) hold more than luan, nice to anchor too,if you miss hitting the strips. Also if it gets wet it does hold togather better. Also I installed styorfoam between strips. |
CoryDane RTSII (66.155.188.166)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 6:04 pm: | |
I assume you are talking Luan that is 1/4" thick on 4x8' sheets.
As long as you have some kind of support behind the luan for counters or whatever you might want to hang on it, 1/4" luan is find as long as the panel is not used in a structual postion.
I would space my wood behind the panel at 12" centers.
I found that the walls on the RTS are structurally secure as long as I didnot remove the seat supports so I used 1x4s for the wall studs and added insulation and paneling. I will loose only 2 inches of space from the new walls.
Everyone hasa their own requirements.
"Thinking bus walls have their own structural values when left stock"
cd |
Nick Morris (Nick3751) (65.117.139.135)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 9:18 pm: | |
What would ya'll think if I said I wanted to not use the strips and just put the luan (1/4x4x8) directly on the frame. Head room is at a premium so I want to preserve all I can. |
Ed Jewett (Kristinsgrandpa) (4.224.96.188)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 12:52 am: | |
Nick I've been thinking about doing the same thing, for the same reason, but only in the rear section (bedroom). I read a post where someone used thin cork tape on the framework to help prevent thermal transfer. I believe they got it from Graingers. I think it was something like 1/16" thick and had adhesive on one side.
My coach floor is tapered/slanted like most. The headroom is lower in the rear.
Ed |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.209.171)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 12:03 pm: | |
Nick: I think you would be making a serious mistake. Every seam will show, you will have nothing to anchor things to, and the interior will have more irregularities than u can imagine. Then, when u hit the hiway, every fastener will magically re-appear. 3/8 minimum over framing. Your framing can actually be incorporated into the space of the existing steel framing but u need it to "smooth" out the interior and provide anchor points. |
CoryDane RTSII (66.155.188.2)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 12:47 pm: | |
(" Head room is at a premium so I want to preserve all I can ")
For the walls you have no choice, you must have some kind of support or your thin luan will move around if someone pushes it, the panel will move in.
Now if you are talking ceiling we might become a bit more flexible.
My bus had fiberglas panels on the ceiling that spaned 4 foot across and 5 foot wide. it was only supported on the edges and attached directly to the frame.
You need to consider any concerns such as space for insulation or ducting?? is there any??
Also, if you need to attach anything to the ceiling, walls, cabinets, you need to build in support under the ceiling material.
Actually your ceiling should be similar to mine so you can see what I am referring to. GMC covered the seams with metal decorative strips.
Good luck
"Thinking ceilings can pose a problem if not thought out"
cd |
John that newguy (199.232.240.15)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 1:06 pm: | |
Whew, huh Nick? Want another opinion?
In home construction, luan seems to tear easy vs the heavier duty
multi-ply. Screws will hold in multi-ply and pop out of the luan.
And water? Water manages to disintegrate laun, causing it to fall
apart in sheets, while the multi-ply will be of much less problem.
For the ceiling, anything light would be better than anything heavy,
but for the walls, where you may be hanging something... I would
go with ply, with or without added latticing. |
DaveD (142.46.199.30)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 9:14 am: | |
I used luan, glued and nailed with brads to select nominal 1 x 3 pine framing for the interior partitions. The pine framing was constructed using biscuits and the framed sections were fastened together and to the floor and ceiling with screws. The 1 x 3s are oriented so that the wide dimension is parallel to the walls. The finished walls are actually 1" thick (3/4" + 2 x 1/4" luan). The finished walls are covered with a heavy vinyl wallpaper. These are nice light walls and while gluing them up was a little time consuming, we've been quite happy with the results. The framing was laid out so that there are horizontal members where anything heavy needed to be fastened.
Dave Dulmage |