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Ian Giffin (Admin) (64.231.9.66)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 6:23 pm:   

Dear Bulletin Board Bus Guys & Girls,

I am a struggling mechanic and I need work. I work real cheap, too...



Kids, please do not attempt this stunt at home!!

Ian
www.busnut.com
jimmci9 (209.240.205.68)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 6:25 pm:   

probably got 25 yrs experience as a "diesel mechanic"....cute.....
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 6:28 pm:   

Of course....you realize....he's welding on a gas-tank.


Gary
TWO DOGS (65.177.144.166)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 6:30 pm:   

can see the headlines now :


...............FLAT I@N..........................
BobWoodsocal (4.46.108.207)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 6:54 pm:   

AT least he has an extra board in case one fails, hehehe. I can't believe anyone is that stupid. This is what they mean by thinning the herd. all the best friends, got to get under my bus, it is chocked up with milkcrates, Bob
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.169.78.242)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 6:57 pm:   

DARWIN AWARD--- 1ST PLACE CONTENDER!!!!!!!!!!
ChuckMC9 (Chucks) (66.167.142.43)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 7:01 pm:   

And, his back is about to push out the brace!

No, Darwin Award would go to the guy who wasn't smart enough to lean it against the curb, or use the wheel chock!

But they do have colourful buildings down there. And good food.

I saw this somewhere awhile back and was going to post it but thought that I@N taskmaster would slap me down for it.
Robert V (141.149.214.57)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 9:20 pm:   

Actually he has taken all the precautions, he is well grounded from electrical shock and he also has his high tech wheel chock in place... I just want to see the guy that held the truck up while he put the boards under it...
TWO DOGS (65.179.200.14)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 9:28 pm:   

yeah...don't mess with the guy that held the truck up
John that newguy (199.232.244.34)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 9:55 pm:   

Say.... Ain't that one of those mechanic traps?
Yank the rope, we got two of them!
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (68.251.24.100)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 10:05 pm:   

HA! Mechanic Trap! HA!

OK JTN gets the prize for the day.


gary
Glenn (166.102.79.121)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 10:58 pm:   

Just think what these fellas could do with a coach!

Glenn
BrianMCI96A3 (69.34.169.52)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 11:03 pm:   

While traveling in China in '98 our tour bus passed by a truck that was broken down at the edge of the road.

As we got close, I could see that the load was rocks, stacked in the bed almost as high as the top of the stake sides.

Pulling even I could see that one of the axles had broken and the wheel was off to one side.

As the tour bus passed, my jaw dropped and a "My God" came out of my mouth.

There was three guys under and around the truck...

One guy was using a heavy bottle jack under the differential to raise the truck up.

The next guy, was grabbing rocks out of the back of truck and waiting for the guy with the jack
to lift the truck enough so he could add a rock to the two and a half foot stack of rocks under the bumper that had been holding the weight of the truck.

The THIRD guy was waiting for the guy with the bottle jack to lower the truck onto the stack of rocks THEN pull the big rock that the bottle jack was perched on out so he could slide a bigger rock under the truck so that the whole operation could start all over again.

Life just has different value in different countries.

Ya think?

Brian
Catskinner! (63.188.232.102)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 12:12 am:   

This must be a Sticks & Staple {no pun intended]
Certified repair center.
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.209.43)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 1:21 am:   

Brian: I can believe it. My daughter spent several months there a few yrs. ago and told me of some unbelievable things that went on. Also have a friend who used to build horizontal pipe boring/laying machines. Extremely high tech. Would bore a hole for a 48" pipe, pull the pipe, and come out 5 miles away within 48" of target. Chinese bought one, 5 million bucks; 1st order of busines was to modify it and get rid of many of the automatic functions. Their story was, they had people to open and close valves, mix slurry, feed slurry, carry pipe to it, lube it, etc.

You have to spend time to the South to appreciate the resourcefulness of the people. What we consider to be dumb is just a way to get it done to them.
Phil Dumpster (24.17.4.245)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 3:59 am:   

You find a lot of that sort of thing in India. A number of jobs that could be done by machinery are done by people using primitive tools just to keep them busy.

Ever seen 85lb steel rail cut by three guys, one with a cold chisel and two with lump hammers? Takes them all day to make a single cut, but that's the way they do it.
BrianMCI96A3 (208.13.141.32)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 8:40 am:   

Removing the automatic functions sounds about right for the Chinese...

I went for a walk across a bridge over a canal while I was there and saw a construction crew drilling holes for pilings with this HUGE electric boring machine.

Everything was covered in mud and ooze, it was fascinating, I was so absorbed with what they were doing I almost walked into the junction box mounted on the side of the bridge.

My eyes almost popped out of my head, the juction box was open and there was an octopus of wires twisted together stuck out of the box feeding 440v through a cable to the drill!!!

Brian
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 10:26 am:   

These are the guys that are taking over our manufacturing jobs, can you believe that?

Gary
madbrit (67.136.98.250)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 1:23 pm:   

All we need to reset the imbalanced trade levels is to introduce OSHA and other Union and Government type controls and China would grind to a halt overnight...... LOL.

Peter.
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 2:28 pm:   

Actually China has very strict laws about worker safety, conduct, etc... that if they were inforced, would definitely level the playing field.

We hear about manufacturing in Mexico, and how we dump our polution-causing manufacturing down there, but that's no longer true. Our plant in Mexico is ISO14000 certified, meaning that all materials are tracked and disposal is completed in keeping with US Standards.

Did you know that the average manufacturing worker in china works 12 - 14 hr days, with an average of one day off per month?

Did you know that most of the workers in Chinese manufacturing are from "The country" making them "Peasants" and are required to stay in company doritories and are not allowed In the cities?

If western companies that depend on chinese manufacturing were to adopt an ISO standard governing worker's rights, labor practices, and other things we consider reasonable here, it would certainly level the playing field.

One last thing--one of the worst offenders is WalMart.


Gary
John that newguy (199.232.240.157)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 4:33 pm:   

Oh-ooooh.... a political issue...

Ya'know guys... It seems kinda' silly to complain about "Chinese imports",
typing on a keyboard made in China.

If it weren't for all the inexpensive Chinese imports, what type
lifestyle could we enjoy? All our money would be spent on the
high-priced American versions of daily use items, leaving us with
less buying power for the more important items we need to have.

I'd prefer to buy a made in China kitchen spatula for .50 instead
an American made one for $3.00, and use the $2.50 towards
an American made device of importance.

Looking around the house, garage and car (and bus), there's
a lot of money that's been saved by buying Chinese imports.
And that equates to a ton of cash that's there to spend on an
American made item; one that we demand better quality from.

I seriously doubt many of us could have all what we have, if we
only had American made products to choose from.

Being Patriotic isn't simply "buying American", it's putting
America first. And sometimes that means doing what we have
to, that will enrich us all.

(whew.... personal idiocy rambling..)
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 4:57 pm:   

Of course it's not "Simply That" not many things are. that's how we get in such political rants. We (All of us) have a tendency to take the path of least resistance and make decisions regarding our affiliations all one way or all the other.

the truth is more difficult.

For myself, I'd own less stuff and buy American--However I fully support all manufacturing in the western world. Hell, I've been looking for a decent pair of Motorcycle boots for a long time now, and they're all chinese, and junk.

john, next time you use that spatula, think about the 12-year old that made it, that makes $2.00/day, and the fact that she is not alowed outside the factory complex.

Gary
Derek (Derek_L) (24.83.196.239)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 6:00 pm:   

What about the fact that if noone bought the $0.50 spatula, the 12 year old kid would be living in conditions similer to the poorest countries in the world. Working and eating for him is considered to be a luxury by many elsewhere.

(This will be my sole contribution, discussing politics is just asking to get in trouble.)
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 6:34 pm:   

The kid would still be working on the farm, with her family, where they have been for thousands of years.

the factories send "Recruiters" into the farm country, the fact is, they're having problems getting enough workers to show up. once the "Worker" shows up to work "In the City"
they learn that they are not permitted into the city and all the prospects of broader horizons vanish. they are virtually conscripted labor, much like indentured servants, as well, I believe there is a "Company Store" aspect. their hope is usually to get out and go home.

I don't think this is really political, at least not in terms of our own politics. I see US citizens interested in this issue irrespective of their own political affiliation.

I have been involved in Maquiladora manufacturing for over ten years and have personally participated in raising the standard of living for a few thousand Mexican workers.

There is a DRMATIC difference between Chinese made products and products from other countries in terms of worker treatment, human rights, etc...

Now, I sit here typing at a keyboard made by HP, in China, or likley a consignee for HP, but several companies have high standards of conduct by their outsourced manufacturers, among them, HP, Rebok, Nike, Gap (After some significant turmoil) among others. Also, my keyboard cost maybe $20, as opposed to the generic cheapo chinese keyboard that cost maybe $5.

My point is there is much truth to what Peter said in jest. If there were an open standard of employer conduct that was verifiable, through Industry Standards, it would certainly level the playing field and likely improve quality of much of what comes from the most highly populated country in the world.

Although I wouldn't send OSHA over there on a bet.

Gary
FAST FRED (4.245.212.61)

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Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 6:19 am:   

Send them Lawyers ,

to do the same damage they have done here!

that will close 'em down .

FAST FRED
TWO DOGS (63.185.73.102)

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Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:06 am:   

what ever happened to the good ol' days ..when American women worked in factorys,now,they just sit at home eating peanut butter out of the jar
Stan (68.150.152.113)

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Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 3:15 pm:   

Don't be too hard on China. You build an industrial giant with cheap labor and greedy owners. England did it 200 years ago and America did it 100 years ago. As conditions improve for the worker they go down for the owner. At the middle both do OK until they are faced with a new kid on the block, in this case China. When things equalize in China there will be another country waiting in the wings.

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