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| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 85 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 198.228.226.125  Rating: N/A |
We are in Nashville and using a lot of oil is there a good bus mechanic in the area? | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 1380 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 173.87.187.21 Rating: N/A |
The Eagles Nest good folks just outside Nashville good luck | ||
| Bob MacIsaac (Wildbob24)
Registered Member Username: Wildbob24 Post Number: 157 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 184.37.50.68  Rating: N/A |
Here's a link: http://www.eaglenestcoach.com/ Bob | ||
| Bob Glines (Robertglines1)
Registered Member Username: Robertglines1 Post Number: 76 Registered: 11-2010 Posted From: 75.205.184.37 Rating: N/A |
Bk bus nut close by and charter operator \if you haven't resolved call me for his # Bob 812 449 8263 | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 86 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 198.228.224.109 Rating: N/A |
$10,000 repair estimate... I just paid 1/2 and have to leave the bus here. Busted piston sleeve so we are just having all 6 piston kits put in. Also blower seals were leaking so a new blower is going on the 6v71. The estimate had heads on it but I'm hoping they will be ok. Clarke power service is doing it, Kenny seemed to know his way around the engine. Ouch but I can't be stuck here and we need to get it fixed right. | ||
| Bob Glines (Robertglines1)
Registered Member Username: Robertglines1 Post Number: 77 Registered: 11-2010 Posted From: 75.205.184.37 Rating: N/A |
Clarke is the go to dependable source in our area. Feel comfortable with your choice. Ck their web site. Bob Evansville ,Indiana | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1674 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 97.224.169.153  Rating: N/A |
Sorry to hear that Scott....great, albeit expensive....HOBBY? Best wishes! RCB | ||
| les marston (Les_marston)
Registered Member Username: Les_marston Post Number: 465 Registered: 1-2010 Posted From: 68.151.225.213  Rating: N/A |
Sorry to hear of your trouble Scott. Been living your dream vicariously through your posts. Best of luck for a speedy recovery on your bus Les | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 87 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 198.228.227.13 Rating: N/A |
We have plans to take it to Vegas in two weeks I hope he's fixed by then. It's seriously sad to leave him behind. It depends on wether or not Detroit diesel has the parts in stock and how long shipping takes. They only use oem parts that they did tell me. Hopefully they can get all the parts that was a concen. They will call me tomorrow. $300 one way rental car from hertz... Kinda ironic because it hurts so much  we have to get home and prepare to leave for a convention in Kentucky in two days. We are all exhausted these last 150 miles at 1:30 am suck. We are very close to hitting the $2,000 mark in our auctions for the son of a friend with hodgkins lymphoma so even though it broke down we are able to help him. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 88 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 166.147.116.46 Rating: N/A |
Oh and luvrbus thanks for the name of eagle nest coach, I tried calling them first but I got voicemail, I made it to a TA truckstop but they wouldn't touch it without a DOT # they gave me volvo's # who sent me to the Detroit diesel dealer and repair shop which was Clark.... I got to see the busted and cracked sleeve through the inspection plate cover. I shocked it still ran. But it sure was using a butt load of oil and doubling as a mosquito fogger. Well it was one hell of an adventure and I can't wait to go on another. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1455 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 75.121.201.107  Rating: N/A |
This is unfortunate but the lives we all live, never knowing what or when it will happen. Luckily I blew the front main seal on my 4104 close enough to home to complete the trip by adding oil every few miles. Anyone want a good 4104 needing a front main seal? | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 91 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
The mechanic said good thing I decided to do all 6 piston kits because the other side the rings were trashed. Also the head is a plugged head were they drilled out a crack and plugged it. Otherwise it looked good but since the head was in the estimate I thnk I'm going to replace it. Any opinions on that? | ||
| Larry & Lynne Dixon (Larry_d)
Registered Member Username: Larry_d Post Number: 378 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 50.39.216.227  Rating: N/A |
I say while you are in there replace anything that even looks a very little warn. Will save the tare down again any time soon. Take good look at clutch if you have one. Labor is the most expensive. I am no mechanic just my gut feeling. Larry | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 2244 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
be a shame to spend 10,000 grand and not do the heads while you are at it.I guess that it one of the problems with those two strokes. The still run pretty good with a good amount of internal damage, except for sucking oil. | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 612 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
Scott I dropped off one head of our 8v92 at the machine shop yesterday to have it checked for cracks. Last July the crankcase filled up with coolant because a 1 dollar O ring failed. I am trying to figure the sequince of events as to how it happened. Once I have a better Idea, I will likely have a post detailing the event. I told the machine shop no shortcuts. Tomorrow the other head is coming off. | ||
| Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
Registered Member Username: Bill_gerrie Post Number: 638 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 216.198.139.38  Rating: N/A |
Joe Many years ago I had the heads on an 8V71 repaired. There was cracks in the head and they put in what is called a "J" plug. I ran it for years after and never had another problem with it. I guess it all depends where the crack is. Bill | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 93 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 166.205.13.134 Rating: N/A |
I think I'm gonna keep the heads, he said they look good and no leaked or cracks. They are not resurface able and are at tollerance now. So if so it sounds like a core charge of $3000 + so as much as I want to if they are good now I'm not sure that I need to budget that money there now. He's fairly confident that the oil leaking from the blower was dumping into #2 on the bottom and burning in combination with the fuel causing that cylinder to get over heated. He is adding a temp gauge in the engine compartment and running an electrical one up to the dash. We only had an idiot light. Internally nothing is torn up but they are replacing bearings and some other crap like that. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
All of the parts have shipped... It was a challenge and took a few days to locate everything and to keep all the parts OEM Detroit, but we did it. The guys at Clarke Power found everything except I had to search for the main bearings that were on backorder until March, but I did locate them on a shelf in MO and they shipped today. I am not thinking that they will make our deadline of next Wed to leave for our trip to Vegas, but it's still a possibility. I wish we had another week, because we have planned a stellar trip. I am having bus withdrawals... Every time I see another bus I think of my sad little bus left behind 300 miles from home all alone...  http://bennythebus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/down-670x250.jpg | ||
| L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
Registered Member Username: Jamo Post Number: 243 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 74.67.215.228  Rating: N/A |
Benny does look sad. Won't be long, all it's going to take to flip that bumper is your checkbook. Hope everything works out for you and BtB... | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 98 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
Our charity auction from that trip just finished last night and we raised over $3,000 for Chase Garber a 24 year old fighting hodgkins lymphoma. So Benny is smiling today. | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 615 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
Scott One of our daughters went through what Chase is going trough about ten years ago, and she is doing very well now. Regarding your heads, I would reuse your current ones and would keep my eyes (and ears) open for a pair of good cores, that you could either rebuild or use as good cores. That way you would not have to pay 2k for core charges. There have to be enough of those floating around because of their past wide use. | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 616 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
I should added to the previous post, because it is pertinent. I paid a visit to the local DD dealer to check out the cost of a head for our 8/92. I was quoted 1900 plus core charge of a thousand. With a good core the core charge is off course not applicable. The head would be a rebuilt core with a one year warranty (Reliabilt) and not a new casting. We are getting a similar unit through the secondary market for 900 less. This one had the work done in Portland also with new valves springs etc and also with a one year warranty. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 100 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
Well the clock is moving fast and everyone else is moving at a different pace.... I'm thinking that the bus will not be done when we need to leave for Vegas. As hard as I tried to get everything moving, I tried to have parts shipped 2nd day and over night, I mentioned that I would pay for it to be shipped faster, they still ordered it to be sent via truck freight, then When they told me that, I again offered to upgrade the shipping they made it should like it was a hassle and it would cost me like $200 more so I wouldn't want to do it... $200 on a 10k repair bill... From day one I said can this be done in two weeks... Well when days go by with no work getting done tic toc tic toc... I know stuff takes time, but I laid it all out clearly, and them making decisions for me without asking me like he won't want to pay $200 to have the parts here a week faster, when we have a trip planned for this deadline. Then the parts guy acts like he don't give a crap he has other stuff to do it just ticks me off. The mechanic I like, the parts guy is a grumpy, laid back, don't remember the last conversation he had with you kind of guy... Seriously everytime I talk to him I have to go over the official minutes report from our last conversation just to refresh his memory... I'm starting to wonder if they have a charge for every day that the bus is there... I located the hard to find parts that was just going to backorder instead of trying to locate and had them shipped to him... "Waiting on parts" are three lazy excuse words that I think come out of his mouth 20x a day. Personally I think parts person should be aggressive and nonstop, never drop the ball, bloodhound, no stone unturned, get-er-done kind of employees... Not just a person that has no people skills so lets hide em' in the back. Venting... if it just can't or couldn't be done fine, but if it could have been done but one persons laziness stopped it... Yes it makes me...um... Not happy. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 101 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
Oh and another thing that kinda ticked me off.. When talking to the mechanic about if he could get it back together Tuesday he said probably if he didn't get pulled away to work on another job..???? Why are you going to get pulled away from my job to work on another job? That made me feel the love... I'm getting cheated on by my mechanic and I'm paying their highest rate I'm sure. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 103 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
So get this... I have called everyday to see if the parts had arrived yet.... The parts guy never verified that they shipped or even looked into it. After I told them today to find out where they are I will drive my butt to what ever loading dock they are on and I will pick them up and drive the parts to them, just tell me where they are!!! It turns out that they never ever even shipped! I left 3 phone messages (every two hours) for the shop manager at Clarke since 9am this morning and that inconsiderate SOB has yet to return my call. One time I called had had them page him... I was on hold for 15 min and he didn't pick up. When the top boss dodges a clients phone calls, it really helps the situation don't you think? OMG I confirmed that he was there, he knew I wanted to talk to him, not that he could do anything at this point, but the over all attitude of these people and their "Serious Customer Service Deficiencies" this guy ought to at least hear from my mouth how his people and company has let me down, and at the least give me an ear and listen about how they had multiple opportunities to get this done and how his employees keep dropping the ball. I just about lost it when I heard "waitin' on parts" come out of the phone this morning... that's when I told him to find out where they are sitting and I'll pick them up... He never called me back but when I just talked to him a little while ago (me calling him again of course) he said they will be shipping UPS ground today, meaning they won't even arrive until we had to leave, and the engine is basically just a block right now so it will be two good full days of labor to put it back together. Really I have no recourse, I'm just stuck. They know they'll get paid, they got me by the short hairs. I was so on top of them other than making that parts guy give me a tracking number, but when he said that the other parts were in-stock and shipping the next day I took him at his word, and when I called for three days in a row after that asking if they were there in he should have looked into it more. I knew that parts guy was a real piece of work. Look at how many dependable unemployed people are out in the market place right now, and they give this guy a job. One bad day at work I get, everyone can have a bad day and make a mistake, but this guy I am done with trusting or believing anything that he says without a tracking number, and copy of the order in front of me. Then to top it all off they told me today that our Mechanics wife had a Heart Attack over the weekend and had a stint put in yesterday so she was in the hospital so he would be off for a few days. I doubt that they would lie about that so I guess I believe that, but honestly part of me thinks that his grandma had probably died 8 or 9 times in his career too... God that's horrible of me to think that way! But the parts should have been there last week on Wed and that issue wouldn't have effected if we made it or not. I'm not a big excuse person... I've never had a sick day here at work in the last probably 15 years or more... Excuses from some people come way to easy and I guess it's a pet peeve of mine... Especially when in the amount of time it took to tell me the excuse he could have got the tracking number and verified that it shipped. Oh well I guess I come off looking like the impatient customer even though they did not do one thing in a weeks time. Two totally different work ethics I guess. Well that's a whole lot of complaining and the end result is that everything is still sitting exactly where it is and as it was a week ago with exception of the backordered bearings that I located and had shipped to them last Thursday. So I did more work on the bus 400 miles away then they did with it in their shop. Multiple times they had it in their power to make different actions and decisions to get this done by the deadline that we had and every time they failed. "Waiting On Parts" OMG they are in stock parts, how long do you have to wait for in stock parts?? Mostly Vented... | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1633 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 76.4.123.74  Rating: N/A |
I believe that Iwould call the HOME OFFICE of Clarke corp. Stuff like this makes me upset also and they know they have you over a barrell and now can do what they want at their price. Whenever I have a job to estimate I cover pretty well my self on paper as to unexpected findings. The price quote is for just what I DO and not what else may be found! Gomer | ||
| Bill Gerrie (Bill_gerrie)
Registered Member Username: Bill_gerrie Post Number: 648 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 216.198.139.38 Rating: N/A |
Scott It is a shame you have gotten such a run around. I'm sure if you went on Ebay or another local busnut could have come up with an engine for you. Probably a lot less cash then the rebuild of your own. Bill | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 105 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
It's sickening... Trust me buying a used engine crossed my mind but I really wanted dependability and having an overhaul would give me a piece of mind, but I've seen rebuilt 6v71 for less than the 10k but for 10K I expected professionalism, quality and experience. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for as a law of the universe except of course when you over pay I know my bus looks like a piece of crap to most people but not to us. How much money is too much to invest into a bus? If you love it, I don't think you can spend too much, as long as you don't need to get it back out. It's not a financial investment, with some pot of gold at the end, it's something for us to enjoy and share with others. We want to make it nicer, and more dependable, safe, and comfortable, but it will always be a funky old hippie looking fishbowl. Plans for this summer, new trans hopefully, new rear end gear, air conditioning fixed, and in tip top mechanical shape for a 50 year old bus that is. I'm ignorant when it comes to the bus, and had the engine held out for another few months we would have had time to figure our something else. We were broke down on the road and wanted it fixed in two weeks.... and instead, now we are broke and feeling really down, it is two weeks later now and I'm feeling the same way my dog felt when we took him to get "fixed" LMAO | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong Post Number: 1887 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.175.142  Rating: |
Scott - Make a list of all the names of the folk at Clarke Nashville that have been giving you the "run-around." Make notes of the days & times you've called, i.e. document everything. Once done, pick up the phone and call corporate: Tom Culver, VP of Operations @ 920-321-4425 Pete Savage, Operations Manager @ 513-719-2313 Riley Asher, VP of Fleet Services @ 920-366-2344 Be polite, but be firm in your disappointment with their company's employee's failure to live up to the promise it makes on the front page of their website. Might also hint that you'll gladly write a testimonial to their poor service for their website, too! (Suggest that when you call, use your business name: "Scott Crosby with SC Transportation Services," you get the idea. Business calls take priority over individuals.) FWIW & HTH. . . | ||
| L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
Registered Member Username: Jamo Post Number: 247 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 74.67.215.228 Rating: |
Bummer Scott... From personal experience, I'd wait until the job was done, the invoice in hand, and the test drive over before I really started stirring that pot. I'm sure we've all found that pissing off the ones you are depending on tends to bite you back. Negotiation on that invoice after the fact might work in your favor. Good luck... | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 106 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
I have a great solution..... have a spare bus! With two busses what are the odds that both are broke down at the same time? Wait don't run the odds on that because it's probably very likely Plus my wife would kill me if I had two buses in the driveway.... actually I don't think the driveway part matters much it would just be the 2 bus part alone that would make her want to kill me. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 115 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 24.120.62.178 Rating: N/A |
I didn't talk to the mechanic but one of the mechanics that answer the phone said that he heard Benny out there running in the shop this morning when I called. I asked for an update and status from the mechanic but I was very busy today so hopefully tomorrow I'll know more, but it's sounds like he's almost done. I want to pick him up on the way home from vegas Friday or late thursday. | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1645 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 76.4.118.163 Rating: N/A |
Glad it is making progress and hope all goes well for you ,,,, after you git out of dodge with the company LOL Gomer | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 116 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 24.120.62.178 Rating: N/A |
Mechanic called me this morning. Everything is good to go. He has tested and ran the engine and has gotten everything tweeked. He says it sounds great. He did have to replace another hose, and the oil filter housing had a leak that had been brazed at one point but it was leaking so he changed it over to a screw on filter. Is there anything I need to know or check myself when picking it up? As you know already I am clearly not very knowledgable and any advice on picking it up like what to ask, check etc would be appreciated. He is putting the rear seat interior back in today. I did ask for the bad piston and sleeve to be saved for me. | ||
| David Evans (Dmd)
Registered Member Username: Dmd Post Number: 674 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.112.182.103  Rating: N/A |
First ask the mechanic how his wife is. have him give you a good walk around and ask him to give you some pointers and if there is anything you should know. Ask him about any break in procedures he might want you to follow and when you should change your oil next. This would be good time to start a oil changing oil analisis routine. Happy trails. Let us know where your headed and how it all turns out. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 117 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 166.147.72.145 Rating: N/A |
$10,986.80 that's officially my arm, leg and left nut we are headed to pick it up now. We are just entering Texas and have about 15hrs of driving still to Nashville so it will be tomorrow morning. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 120 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 166.147.104.143 Rating: N/A |
Talk about nickel and dime charges on the invoice OMG I think some charges should be in the overall shop rate like the red thread lock $5.10, 1 sanding disk $2.10, 3 cans of engine cleaner used to clean the parts $3.59 each... Well, At least they didn't charge me for the oil drips... Oh wait they did sort of with a $40 EPA charge. Crazy bill padding in my opinion with a $6,850 labor charge. Oh and $75 supply charge? WTF it sounds like they itemized all the "supplies" already, unless the mechanic had to wipe is butt and they charged me for the toilet paper..... Sorry slight rant. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 121 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 166.147.104.149 Rating: N/A |
4 nylon cable ties .14 each are seriously on the bill. | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 2293 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 174.91.143.176  Rating: N/A |
Detailed billing is not unusual, the technician in an orderly shop has to account for all the things taken from the stockroom, so the storekeeper records their leaving the stockroom against your job number, and they make it onto your bill. It is not unusual for there to be a shop rag count on a bill! happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 637 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
Scott Are the total number of hours spent by the mechanic itemized on the bill, or is it a number sucked out of the back of a pencil? I am in the process of doing the same except it is an 8 | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 123 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
Want to know what really made me want to go postal on them today? I'm glad I really studied that bill. They had the parts on it that were the parts I ordered, paid for and had shipped to them. Busted! My wife made me look for it, I was like no they wouldn't do that... Sure as chit they did. The biggest complaint is they put a 10" scratch on the inside of my windshield right in the line of sight! It could not be in any worse of a spot, right between the tail lights of the car in front of you. I was seeing double, cross eyed, and glare. It's annoying in daylight, and night driving it's horrible and makesmme want to puke. I called them the second I got home but I'm not getting my hopes up. Can a scratch be buffed out? Is glass available for a fishbowl? Are all years the same? What's this going to cost me? They put an oil pressure guage, and temp gauge in the dash so some how it happened during that. I had two other people driving with me on the trip when it broke down, they know there was not a big freaking scratch right in the line of sight! Aaahhhhhhh. I have a bunch of other crud to not be happy about but I'm not in the mood to even vent about it. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 126 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
They tried three times to get me to sign a paper saying that I approved the work and everything was done to my satisfaction... Without even seeing or hearing it run. I was getting really mad and told them I wasn't signing anything until I checked it out. Then I went out and started it and they followed with the paper work. Why would they keep saying sign here without ever letting me see it? It all felt so dirty. | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 2294 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 174.91.143.176 Rating: N/A |
And this is why owning an old bus for personal use is not for the faint of heart. You are unwittingly swimming in a fierce, competitive, commercial, profit making, lying, cheating, stealing, cesspool. Every truck and bus owner on the continent deals with it daily. There is no quaint consumer protection like with your car. Nope, this isn't a country song, nor the intro to a Disney movie. Run with the big dogs, or stay on the porch. That bumper sticker has a lot more meaning to it now? But, on the bright side, you've got an engine rebuild, so down the highway you go, and enjoy the coach! happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 132 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
I did not expect my bus to be leaking more oil now than it did before they put new guts in it. Somewhere high like the generator mount, yoke on the other side for the a/c and maybe the air compressor mount too I can't tell but my driveway says Benny was parked here. 2x the puddle size that I used to get in a week I have now in a day. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 2290 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157 Rating: N/A |
Are these guys accustomed to work on 2 cycle detroits? They sure wanted to get you out of there fast. Sounds like they are expecting to get a call from a lawyer. | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 638 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
On the other post with the picture, it looks that they didnot take the time to paint the engine a nice detroit green. They likely would have charged you an extra 5 bucks for the can!!!!! Still would like to know the labour charge out of the total. Joe. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 134 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
I thought for sure that it would start right up this morning without any start fluid or pre warming required. 29 deg f I cranked it for nearly 2 min straight. (10 seconds at a time a dozen times) nope. Then I plugged the block warmer in and waited an hour and it started right up. I just wanted to see if compression helped cold start. I guess not | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 2295 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157 Rating: N/A |
Ours wouldn't start at that temp.We always use a block heater, unless caught out without electric or generator; then ether. | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 135 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: |
It used to start like that with about 1 min. Must have been the additional oil leaking In to the blower giving it a kick. I don't like that the. We oil guage they added only shows 5psi at idle. Which he explains to me is. "Normal" just so it doesnt read 0. The factory one in the engine compartment reads in the 20's which is it? I video recorded the conversation so I could remember everything he said and it pisses me off when I watch it. Like when they try to explain the $75 shop fee. Of the EPA fee... When the truck that hauls away the used oil leaves if it has an accident and spills the oil they are required to clean it up and it's their responsibility so that's why there is a fee. I pay for an oil change at my other shop I used for about that fee for supplies and 55 labor. I figure the oil change cost me $350 in this bs | ||
| Scott Crosby (Scott_crosby)
Registered Member Username: Scott_crosby Post Number: 136 Registered: 12-2011 Posted From: 99.100.88.196 Rating: N/A |
We oil guage = new oil guage Stupid iPhone | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 2297 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157 Rating: |
Did they change it over to advanced timing when they rebuilt it? Maybe your starting technique will need to change slightly, or they put in thicker oil than you used. He is right about still being responsible for the waste oil from shop to "grave". The regulation is why shop owners need receipts from hauler and try to make sure the guy is reputable. They charge the shop for hauling it and then just dump it out in the woods, and shop owner is still going to be responsible for bill to clean up the contamination. Did this shop have a waste oil heater? That way he can charge you for the oil and then use it to save money to heat the shop.Did he replace the oil pump and all bearings in engine? New oil weight, bad gage? I've seen several DDA's that only had 5 pounds of pressure hot and run fine, although I'd like to see more at idle. How much have you at crusing? Try a mechanical gage at the engine. Btw, 71 series rarely have crank bearings go out. Run low on oil and piston/s usually will seize first. | ||
| Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
Registered Member Username: Pvcces Post Number: 1393 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 65.74.66.117 Rating: |
Not to mention, you could be looking at 30,000 miles to fully break in the engine if you don't make an effort to get the rings to seat. Do not baby the engine during break in. Once the rings seat, starting, power and fuel economy will improve. We had an inline six cylinder Detroit in a boat rebuilt that started and ran like crap until I asked around and got told in no uncertain terms to take it out and firewall it for four hours continuously. I followed that advice and the change in the engine was hard to believe. It acted like a new engine. If the rebuild included the recommended dynamometer runs, that would be a good start. That was our experience. Good luck. Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576 Suncatcher Ketchikan, Alaska | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 641 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
Tom You are probably aware that I am in the midst of going trough our 892. Would you recommend the same for this engine? It is turbo 475 hp. Joe. | ||
| Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
Registered Member Username: Pvcces Post Number: 1394 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 65.74.66.117 Rating: N/A |
Hi, Joe. I don't think that you could find a stretch of road where you could accomplish that. I would think that using full power on grades and for accelerating would be what I would do. It just would take a while to get the job done. Getting the dyno work done would help. Cliff (Luvrbus), seems to have had a lot of exposure to these engines, so I would ask him what he thinks. Good luck. Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576 Suncatcher Ketchikan, Alaska |
